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Jun 29, 2015 11:40 AM CST
Name: Lisa Klette
Dayton, KY (Zone 6a)
Region: Kentucky Sempervivums Lilies Irises Hostas Garden Art
Daylilies Dahlias Plant and/or Seed Trader Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Harvest moth x pufferfish
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Bass Gibson x jaguar paws - 2 sibs
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Manning seedling- Rock my world x can't touch this
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Tooth and nail x pufferfish - morning in the rain
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Tooth and nail x pufferfish - morning, cut scape on front porch
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(Vampire lestat x Suzy creamcheese) x rosella flight
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Jun 29, 2015 12:10 PM CST
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Birds The WITWIT Badge Garden Ideas: Level 1 Roses
Irises Daylilies Cat Lover Region: California Region: United States of America
I'm very impressed with all these seedlings, folks -- I just with mine were half as good!

Leslie, I think it was Michele (Tink3472) who advised me that if the temp goes over the mid-80's crosses usually won't take. And I've certainly noticed a big increase in pods since I started paying attention to the temps. The really unfortunate thing is that since last year our temps have been quite a bit higher than they used to be in the late spring and early summer. My solution is to pot everything up that I want to use as pod parents, and then I move the pots inside the house for 2 days if the temp is going to go above 86, and it seems like about half of the crosses take that way. But I can only accommodate about 30 pots max indoors, so I have to make some hard choices at times. And I have succeeded in getting some crosses to take outdoors under a big umbrella up to about 90 degrees. This spring I had to move pots indoors starting in early May -- bummer!

I always go by what the high temperature is going to be that day, not what the temp is in the morning when I apply the pollen, and that does seem to have made a difference.
Betty
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Jun 29, 2015 5:47 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Chapin, SC (Zone 8a)
Keeps Sheep Daylilies Hybridizer Garden Photography Cat Lover Hummingbirder
Birds Region: South Carolina Plant and/or Seed Trader Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Welcome Albatordu31. I really like your first one.
Leslie

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Joshua 24:15
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Jun 29, 2015 6:41 PM CST
Name: Lisa Klette
Dayton, KY (Zone 6a)
Region: Kentucky Sempervivums Lilies Irises Hostas Garden Art
Daylilies Dahlias Plant and/or Seed Trader Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Forgive my manners!

Welcome!
siloamspringsdan- I like the color on your double.

Albatordu31 - big teeth, oh my....love them
Love what you teach and teach what you love!
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Jun 30, 2015 2:05 AM CST

Thank you Spunky1, Hemlady, Beckygardener, Lalambchop1, Lilydaydreamer

Spunky1: congratulation for your seedlings.



A toothy seedling with bright lemon teeth

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Gaudy-2, a John Benz seedling.

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A young seedling, very bright red.

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Jun 30, 2015 2:40 AM CST
Name: Hans K.
Germany - Wiesbaden (Zone 8a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1
seeldling - converted ?


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noid x teenie girl



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noid x niod

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Apophis x Rögnvaldursson


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Citrina x Give Me Eight - just opening

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han
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Jun 30, 2015 8:49 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
Daylilies Hybridizer Irises Butterflies Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Birds Region: Michigan Vegetable Grower Hummingbirder Heucheras Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
Today's seedlings.

(RENAISSANCE MAIDEN X EMERALD STARBURST) FFOE
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A couple of Galaxy Explosion seedlings, 3rd year bloom

#1 GALAXY EXPLOSION X REBEKAH'S GOTHIC SPIDER 15 bud count
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#1 GALAXY EXPLOSION X REBEKAH'S GOTHIC SPIDER boy I wish this one had a more distinct flower. This year it is 2 way branching on top and 2 Y branches with a total of 31 buds.

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LAVENDER BLUE BABY X STARMAN'S QUEST SDG.#1
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MAGIC OF OZ X (LIGHTHOUSE SATIN SLIPPER X SKINWALKER)
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JESTER'S COLLAR X MAGIC OF OZ
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Lighthouse Gardens
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Jun 30, 2015 10:07 AM CST
Name: David McCausland
Horseheads, NY (Zone 5a)
Daylilies Hostas Hybridizer Region: New York Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers cold winters
First Flower Open on this seedling this year. I moved it from the seedling area to a spot which receives sun for at least 8 hours of the day. It is a cross of ENCHANTING ESMERELDA x RED VOLUNTEER. In the second picture, one can see that there are two side branches on the scape. I like the color and it is a 6.5" bloom. I like that the buds show color saturation.
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Jun 30, 2015 11:30 AM CST
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Birds The WITWIT Badge Garden Ideas: Level 1 Roses
Irises Daylilies Cat Lover Region: California Region: United States of America
Really love that first one, the Emerald Starburst seedling, Cindy!
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Jun 30, 2015 12:09 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Chapin, SC (Zone 8a)
Keeps Sheep Daylilies Hybridizer Garden Photography Cat Lover Hummingbirder
Birds Region: South Carolina Plant and/or Seed Trader Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Love the color on your seedling, Bedmaker.
Leslie

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Joshua 24:15
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Jun 30, 2015 5:04 PM CST
Name: Hans K.
Germany - Wiesbaden (Zone 8a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1
seedling species crossed

citrina x Give me Eight


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a converted? - hope it worked
Red Rum x seedling - i´m so glad about the green throat
at high noon




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late afternoon 2 hours before sun left - a bit shady

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Berlin Melonon Ice (unregistred -Tamberg) x Let Loose 9"


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(Reyna x Rock Solid) x SC Gone Bulldogging



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Black Passion x Pink Stripes ? - from Lily-auction, no stripes, but good shape - cascade!?

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noids




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spottet and eye
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Jun 30, 2015 9:16 PM CST
Name: Ashton & Terry
Oklahoma (Zone 7a)
Windswept Farm & Gardens
Butterflies Keeps Sheep Pollen collector Region: Oklahoma Lilies Irises
Hybridizer Hummingbirder Hostas Daylilies Region: United States of America Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Betja said:I'm very impressed with all these seedlings, folks -- I just with mine were half as good!

Leslie, I think it was Michele (Tink3472) who advised me that if the temp goes over the mid-80's crosses usually won't take. And I've certainly noticed a big increase in pods since I started paying attention to the temps. The really unfortunate thing is that since last year our temps have been quite a bit higher than they used to be in the late spring and early summer. My solution is to pot everything up that I want to use as pod parents, and then I move the pots inside the house for 2 days if the temp is going to go above 86, and it seems like about half of the crosses take that way. But I can only accommodate about 30 pots max indoors, so I have to make some hard choices at times. And I have succeeded in getting some crosses to take outdoors under a big umbrella up to about 90 degrees. This spring I had to move pots indoors starting in early May -- bummer!

I always go by what the high temperature is going to be that day, not what the temp is in the morning when I apply the pollen, and that does seem to have made a difference.


I am not sure what may be different. We get very hot here and I go out in the morning and spread pollen every morning. It was 98 here today and I am fairly sure I set 90% of crosses I did this morning. It is rare that we have highs below mid 80's during our hybridizing season here. Much more common to be in the 90's and we set 20,000 seeds in these temps in the garden. I like to water to make sure the seeds are good quality as they are developing.
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Jun 30, 2015 9:27 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Container Gardener
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Birds Ponds
Ashton - If you are hand-pollinating in the morning, could it be that the temps are around 80-85 at that time? I, too, have been able to get pods during the very warm temps here, too, as long as I hand-pollinate before noon, when the temps start getting above 85 degrees.
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Jun 30, 2015 9:35 PM CST
Name: Ashton & Terry
Oklahoma (Zone 7a)
Windswept Farm & Gardens
Butterflies Keeps Sheep Pollen collector Region: Oklahoma Lilies Irises
Hybridizer Hummingbirder Hostas Daylilies Region: United States of America Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I'm sure everyone gets up fairly early to hybridize.
You have to get up before the bees and before it gets hot to get more pods.
It gets warm at about 8 in the morning here.
Supposed to be the hottest day of the year tomorrow at 97 degrees, which is not as bad as some places. Have to get up earlier tomorrow... 😴😴😴
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Jul 1, 2015 4:57 PM CST
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Birds The WITWIT Badge Garden Ideas: Level 1 Roses
Irises Daylilies Cat Lover Region: California Region: United States of America
We were 106 yesterday, and it's very humid here today -- totally unusual! We usually have very low humidity, which is one of the reasons I think I have so much trouble setting seeds. I will go for weeks with nothing taking, and then suddenly for one week nearly everything will take -- and I usually have no clue what the difference is. So I've been watching the temps this year, and I've had much more success this time around. But ever since we returned from vacation on the 24th it's been over 100 every day, and totally dry until the dew point raised up above 50 yesterday and the humidity arrived -- but only a few drops of rain this morning, of course! And because of our drought restrictions I can only water three days a week -- and the daylilies growing in the ground are NOT happy!

Ashton, are you in a more humid area of Oklahoma , or in the drier area? I'm thinking our hot, dry climate makes quite a difference here, no matter how early I get out there.
Betty
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Jul 1, 2015 5:06 PM CST
Name: Ashton & Terry
Oklahoma (Zone 7a)
Windswept Farm & Gardens
Butterflies Keeps Sheep Pollen collector Region: Oklahoma Lilies Irises
Hybridizer Hummingbirder Hostas Daylilies Region: United States of America Celebrating Gardening: 2015
We are in the drier part of Oklahoma.
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Jul 1, 2015 5:29 PM CST
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Birds The WITWIT Badge Garden Ideas: Level 1 Roses
Irises Daylilies Cat Lover Region: California Region: United States of America
Hmmmm -- Well, I can't explain why so many of my crosses don't take. It just seems like my success rate has really improved since I've been watching the temps, so i'll continue with that for now. We're usually over 100 for most of the summer with no rainfall -- bummer!
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Jul 1, 2015 5:32 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Container Gardener
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Birds Ponds
Betty - I have noticed that my daylilies that get some morning shade set seeds easier than the ones out in full sun. Could you try shading the ones you are crossing with an umbrella or something for a few hours after hand-pollinating them? The heat is definitely a factor here.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters, compared to what lies within us.
Garden Rooms and Becky's Budget Garden
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Jul 1, 2015 5:56 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Container Gardener
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Birds Ponds
Ashton - Do you do many back-crossings? Or sibling crosses to try to get a certain characteristic?

I've decided to try a different tactic in my hybridizing program. One I should have done from the very beginning, but I knew so little then. I am really wanting to create some rust resistant cultivars, so I am planning on adding a new bed with NAMED cultivars that have good rust resistant ratings. I keep reading how some hybridizers just cull the seedlings that show any rust before they ever bloom. That's a hard one for me. I keep thinking that rust resistant is a top goal, but so is an usual bloom. I have to keep rusty daylilies anyway, to test for rust resistant among new seedlings. But my limited space is also pushing me in the direction of culling. Some serious culling. The school I work at might be gifted with some daylilies this Fall. Rust-prone and/or plainer seedling daylilies, because I don't have the heart to just toss them. Yes .... I am sentimental. My school needs the garden areas improved, so this will be a good opportunity and maybe I can use it as a class lesson on plants. We shall see. Either way, I have too many that I don't want to keep. I think some were divisions planted in different garden beds, too. I don't need more than one plant of each seedling. (Unless it's something I am very happy with!)

I do have some seedlings that look promising with rust resistance. In all honesty, maybe 10% are showing some notable resistance to rust, but all the rest either get some rust - to some that are what I would consider rust buckets! So ...

I know some folks here are doing something very similar in their hybridizing. I would love to know what named cultivars you are using that are showing good rust resistance. I did a search through the database on rust resistant cultivars and got a lot of names, but I also read contradicting info about some plants true rust resistance. I would really like to know some cultivar names that YOU are impressed with as far as rust resistance is concerned. Those are the ones I want to use in my crosses with some of my seedlings that aren't rust resistant but have blooms that I really like.

Any one care to share the names of any rust resistant cultivars that you actually have in your garden?
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Jul 1, 2015 8:43 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Container Gardener
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Birds Ponds
I still have some blooming and some that are reblooming. Not a lot, but several.

This is one that I like a lot. I have no idea of it's parentage. It is also consistently showing rust resistance on it's foliage. Not a lot of buds though and the scape is not very sturdy. I have to stake it. Always room for improvement though in crossing it with a bud builder. I believe it is a dip. Thumbs up

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