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Jan 31, 2011 5:30 PM CST
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Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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Once you have some OTs you won't miss the Orientals as much. They are as richly colored, and the fragrance is heavenly.
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Jan 31, 2011 5:55 PM CST
Lincoln, NE
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Remember that there are lots of lily growers in Canada! Planting near your house, especially on the south side, helps push the zone a bit. Take a look at a couple of articles about creating micro-climates http://www.gardenguides.com/58...
http://www.emmitsburg.net/gard...
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Jan 31, 2011 6:04 PM CST
Name: Cherie (Cece) Coogan
Southeastern WI zone 5a (Zone 5a)
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That is true. A protected place from winter winds, southern exposure and up against the house will really keep it warmer than you would think.

Also be sure to check with the nurseries and garden centers in your area. They would have ideas and names of varieties that do well in your area.

Also like Polly said, a couple OT's (Orienpets) and you won't miss Orientals quite as much. These are sturdies stem plants that don't need as much staking as Orientals can....... and their fragrance is just as intoxicating as the Orientals.
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Feb 1, 2011 7:20 PM CST
Name: stephanie king
cut bank, MT z 3a-4b
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We have no garden centers near here but it is so easy on the net these days. My problem is I cannot plant near the foundation on he front of the house as it was built 1940 and so old we don't want to ruin the cement and the newer part is cement walks all the way around. I do have a couple areas in the yard that get a good S-E sun and wind protection that would easily be mulched heavily so will plant them there.
Moby I will check those sights and see what they do. Thanks everyone. You are all great.
Steph
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Feb 2, 2011 9:50 AM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
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It is true that oriental trumpets are generally hardier than straight oriental lilies. It's not surprising, as trumpet species usually have better, longer lasting constitutions.

The four best tips for orientals in very cold climates.

1. As long as you know the ground will freeze anyway, put on a heavy mulch before the ground freezes. (That's not what I normally recommend.) Here in zone 4 Minnesota, that's not the case. In fact this season, we had a heavy snowfall relatively early for a thick blanket. The frozen ground has already thawed in many places under the deep snow. If you are unsure, than apply a mulch after the ground freezes well.

2. Make sure you soil is acid based. A pH of 5.5-6 or 6.5 is best. Neutral soil will lessen the cold hardiness, and alkaline soil will affect overall health, which will in turn decrease cold hardiness.

3. Plant the bulb 2-4 inches deeper than recommended. But you must be sure that the soil way down there, and below the bulb where roots will establish, is adequate (i.e. rich, acid, still well draining).

4. Plant in spring, not fall.

Remember, if the stem has died back, there is no need to water in the fall, unless you are positive the soil is bone dry down where the bulb is. It is always better for bulbs to go into the winter slightly lacking water than the other way around.
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Feb 3, 2011 10:43 AM CST
Name: stephanie king
cut bank, MT z 3a-4b
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Great info. Thanks so much. I usually plant in the spring so things can establish well before freezing.
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May 7, 2011 5:01 AM CST
Name: Becky
WI
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Hi All! Lots of little noses peeking up here. We have been having unseasonably cold temps & lots of precip this spring. Yesterday was beautiful with temps near 70. I am hoping we have turned the corner weather wise so the gardens can really take a leap! Got all of my new lily bulbs planted, so it will be a while for those.
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May 7, 2011 5:29 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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Those really warm temps bring on direct sowed poppies.
In April I didnt think mine took but I am thinning as we speak.
Its such a thrill to see things emerge seemingly over night.
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May 7, 2011 6:44 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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I've got lots of noses, too. Yay. And those pricey ones I got from The Lily Garden, that some critter chomped down last year have come back like gangbusters. So there, rabbit!!!!
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May 7, 2011 8:30 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
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I love this time of year.
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May 10, 2011 10:56 PM CST
Name: Cherie (Cece) Coogan
Southeastern WI zone 5a (Zone 5a)
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This is how far my lilies, Orienpets, are......
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Well at least a bunch of days ago. With the 70s yesterday and tomorrow they are showing quite a growth spurt;
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May 11, 2011 2:40 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
I think they grow faster at night.LOL
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May 11, 2011 8:19 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
Seller of Garden Stuff Garden Ideas: Level 1
Oh no Jo, we're thinking alike. I was just telling Russ that. I think at this point they're doubling overnight.

Can't wait to see pics of blooms, Cece!
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May 11, 2011 8:36 AM CST
Lincoln, NE
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I agree and... Holy cow, with the 95* for the last 2 days, I think some of the lilies jumped from 2 to 4 feet!
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May 11, 2011 9:09 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
I believe it
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April 24 same spot
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I still have the feeling its going to be bitter cold and snow. Ghosts of winter I guess.
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May 19, 2011 6:41 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida (Zone 8a)
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Someone say Lillies. Only have a few. but this one is in bloom. Even the pollen is colorful...
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May 19, 2011 6:59 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
Seller of Garden Stuff Garden Ideas: Level 1
Wowser! I bet you can see that from a distance, Charleen.
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May 19, 2011 8:15 PM CST
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Name: Tracey
Midwest (Zone 5a)
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It looks like it could be 'Blackout'. Very bright and cheerful!
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May 20, 2011 6:25 AM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida (Zone 8a)
Walk in Peace / I'm Timber's Mom.
Miniature Gardening Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! I sent a postcard to Randy! Tip Photographer I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
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Yes, that's it. Got to make me a Label. thank you... Group hug Group hug
I have some that are same color that is a little taller, I got them a few years before these. They are beautiful too.
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May 22, 2011 8:44 AM CST
Name: Cherie (Cece) Coogan
Southeastern WI zone 5a (Zone 5a)
Charter ATP Member
can't wait for mine to bloom but it'll be a few weeks yet... Sad
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