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Aug 28, 2011 4:38 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
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Her endeavor was foiled by Sherleft and the Feline Guard, et. al. Big Grin
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Aug 28, 2011 7:31 PM CST
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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They ganged up on me.... no fair!!!
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Aug 29, 2011 3:15 AM CST
Name: Anthony Weeding
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
idont havemuch-but ihave everything
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i just shifted my gloriosoides box,,.,.rick, advise you to do the same
lily freaks are not geeks!
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Aug 29, 2011 8:10 AM CST
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Name: Tracey
Midwest (Zone 5a)
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Rolling on the floor laughing
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Aug 29, 2011 4:01 PM CST
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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Ahem... next group for your viewing pleasure:

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There were some with smaller, cute flowers; I stuck my hand in there for comparison:
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Who's that out there?
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Outfacing with a nice inflorescence:
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More coming... just two more batches to go...
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Aug 29, 2011 7:35 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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Beautiful!

Who is that out there? It looks like Judith Freeman hair.
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Aug 29, 2011 7:38 PM CST
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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It is her hair... and the rest of her!
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Aug 29, 2011 7:41 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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Aha! Rubbing elbows in the fields with the greats. I just adore that woman. I would so love to meet her someday.
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Aug 29, 2011 7:59 PM CST
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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I know I should have hung around more around Johan and Judith, that is what many of the guests were doing. There is always something new to learn from those who are in the know. But I was too busy taking pictures and trying to remember which rows I had already been down.

Judith is really a nice person. Very folksy. I think she is from the South, Oklahoma if I remember right. Nice southern drawl.
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Aug 30, 2011 12:39 PM CST
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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Next group:

An excellent specimen of fasciation; the stem is very wide and flat, thin as a pencil in fact. It is a wonder it can support all of those buds:
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Another nice speckled oriental lily:
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The rolled and pinched tepals of this lily should ensure it a new home in the compost pile:
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A very nice pink:
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Another nice dark red:
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Notice the yellow blush at the end of each petal:
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Another lovely soft pink:
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Another comparatively tiny oriental lily:
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Oh boy, one more batch to go!
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Aug 30, 2011 1:01 PM CST
Lincoln, NE
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How could they possibly throw any away??
Where are we going, and why am I in this hand-basket?
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Aug 30, 2011 2:17 PM CST
Name: Shelly
Colorado (Zone 5b)
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Oh Moby! I agree, they are all just beautiful!
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Aug 30, 2011 3:20 PM CST
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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Whew! Last of the lilies!
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A Starfighter look-a-like:
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And finally the dastardly compost pile. I had to snoop around a bit to find it, hiding in the shadows Big Grin
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Walking back to my truck I noticed this nice garden vignette with a layered look of evergreens, lilies, and a Smoke tree (Cotinus)
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I hope you all enjoyed this visit to a lily hybridizing farm Smiling .
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Aug 30, 2011 3:31 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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Now, are these lilies that were hybridized by Mak Leek in the Netherlands and sent over here to test, or are these Johan and Shelly's own creations?
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Aug 30, 2011 5:06 PM CST
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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Do Johan and Shelly hybridize? I thought they just sold Johan's dad's creations. These are hybridized by Johan senior. These were created here, just 19 miles from me. I have seen those foil stigma caps so I think it is safe to say they are hybridized here! I think Leek is a partner in the Netherlands. I do know that people from the Netherlands come out here to evaluate the seedlings.

This is not a large operation. There are two greenhouses; one for starting and growing seedlings and one for growing and continuing evaluation and hybridizing. We were not allowed in the "little" seedling greenhouse. By seedlings, I am talking about little grass like seedlings probably started earlier this year.

I am guessing that when you talk to someone on the phone it is Johan Jr. or Shelly. I don't think Sr. is involved on the retail end anymore.
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Aug 30, 2011 5:39 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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I don't know. First I talked to Johan Sr, and we had trouble understanding one another, which was probably my fault, I'm not good with even regional dialects here. But my understanding was a lot of the lilies were hybridized in the Netherlands by Mak Leek corp, and then brought here for testing. Afterwards I spoke with Shelly, and she told me most of the lilies were her fathers creations and he was back and forth to the Netherlands. Beautiful creations, whoever is hybridizing them.
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Aug 30, 2011 6:05 PM CST
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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I wouldn't be surprised if some of the lilies from the Netherlands are tested here. It is a good area to grow lilies. I recall reading a bio of the Mak in the society bulletin a while back. I may scrounge that up and review as I get time.
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Aug 30, 2011 9:43 PM CST
Lincoln, NE
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Ahh... the compost pile. Now we have a target. Whistling
Where are we going, and why am I in this hand-basket?
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Aug 31, 2011 4:24 AM CST
Name: Celeste
Northernmost and largest state (Zone 5a)
The Vacation Land!
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Those lilies are gorgeous....no need to throw any away, i'll take one of each. Big Grin
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Aug 31, 2011 8:52 AM CST
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Name: Tracey
Midwest (Zone 5a)
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I understand Johan Jr and Shelly sell lilies, but do not hybridize. Johan Sr does the hybridizing and I also understand a lot of his work goes back overseas for propagation. I also understand most of what Johan Jr and Shelly are selling come from Holland. They used to sell a great deal of Johan Sr.'s work, but it seems like that has very recently changed.

In any case, they have a whole lot of beauty out there. And I have been told by a few great hybridizers is that what makes you a great hybridizer is when you can be a lily assassin, culling for all sorts of reasons. We tend to first look at the "pretty face", but there are all sorts of things that go into it, the pretty face is just the beginning. Being a non-great hybridizer at this point as I am, I see the beauty in each seedling. I'm still happy that I get anything to bloom from seed! *Blush*

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