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Mar 13, 2016 8:07 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
I've read this a few times over the past couple of years Cory.
http://www.dvis-ais.org/iris-r...
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Mar 14, 2016 9:39 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
tveguy3 said:I like the first and next to last ones best! Smiling


Me too. That first Iris is absolutely elegant. Lovey dubby
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Mar 14, 2016 9:43 AM CST
Name: Mika
Oxfordshire, England and Mento
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Foliage Fan Critters Allowed Daylilies Irises Roses
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That's a useful article, Rob - I've starred it in case I need it in the future!
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Mar 14, 2016 9:55 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
For those who have had any experience "solarizing" their soil, I have a question, or two. I just completed my "inventory" of losses, .....and it's staggering ! Rick & Roger, at Superstition suggested that , maybe, solarizing might help. My question is.........do you think it would work doing only the area the plant was in ? ....i'e', that 2' X 2' square, or, would one have to remove ALL the plants from the bed, and do the whole thing ? any thoughts ?
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Mar 14, 2016 10:03 AM CST
Name: Mika
Oxfordshire, England and Mento
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Foliage Fan Critters Allowed Daylilies Irises Roses
Hostas Birds Multi-Region Gardener Cat Lover Dog Lover Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Sorry to hear of your losses, Arlyn. Can't help with solarizing, since I don't even know what it is! But I'm sure others will and I'll watch this thread with interest.
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Mar 14, 2016 10:36 AM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
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I would think you would need a bit bigger solarized area, Arlyn. I would remove the problem iris and the ones surrounding it and treat that area. This is going to be a little by guess and by gosh effort I imagine.
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Mar 14, 2016 11:38 AM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Wayne Schmidt's Soil Solarization Page
www.waynesthisandthat.com › solarization

Not sure I copied this site the way I've seen so many of you do but I looked up soil solarization and this guy did lots of experimenting with different thickness of plastic, color of plastic , using mirrors, and boiling water....
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Mar 14, 2016 12:46 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Butterflies Vegetable Grower Keeper of Poultry Irises Keeps Horses Dog Lover
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I think that Rick and Roger can solarize in one summer due to the intense heat there. If I understand their method they rotate their crops annually, plant a cover crop, and then solarize the area with the cover crop. That would degrade and be turned into organic matter under the plastic to be tilled into the soil in the fall before planting. The temps need to get pretty hot under their. I used to do that with my veggie garden and plant on alternate years. I used back plastic to intensify the heat. I know that they use a clear plastic from what I've read. Clear plastic here doesn't get hot enough, and weeds grow under it and that's not good.

I would think you should solarize an area this summer (good excuse to make a new bed) and plant it next summer, leaving it covered all this year, and up to the time you want to plant in 2017. I would add any amendments now and let the worms and such work it into the soil. That way it would be solarized too. I always wet it good before putting down the plastic. That way lots of weed seeds try to germinate and die. I would also clean and disinfect your tiller before tilling it. Then report back to us about how that worked. Also I'd re-soak any plants put into the space with a bleach solution.

I've been wanting to do this, but never seem to get it done. Although I have a new place that I solarized since last year to make room for some veggies, since I keep steeling space for my seedlings.

There, now you have a new experiment all ready to go! Whistling
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Mar 14, 2016 2:35 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Sounds good to me.
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Mar 14, 2016 3:02 PM CST
Name: Mika
Oxfordshire, England and Mento
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Foliage Fan Critters Allowed Daylilies Irises Roses
Hostas Birds Multi-Region Gardener Cat Lover Dog Lover Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
And also a lot of work! But I'm sure it will be worth the effort. At least now I understand what solarization is about and for. I'll keep watching. Smiling
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Mar 14, 2016 9:25 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
Arlyn -- the one person that I know that solarizes his beds, removes all Irises from that bed and solarizes the entire thing. FWIW
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Mar 14, 2016 10:04 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Brad
iowa (Zone 5a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Cory.. I'm not sure of your weather conditions there but normally soft rot comes from plants being in wet humid conditions and unlikely it would attack your whole garden at once especially during the cold months unless you completely buried them or mixed in some sort of fertilizer but even then you most likely wouldn't see that until the temps warm up and ground temp hits a certain point.

The plants I have issues with are the same way they don't show the grey mold on them and there not spongey but more soft to the touch there is a difference so to say because Ive had both but Botyrtis attacks in different forms and the secondary part of it is the bulb will rot and this is what your seeing. I took a pocket knife and cut out the center of the rotten bulbs it will allow air circulation if you do this you should be able to save the increase unless it's spread to it.

I let what survived stay and then I moved them in late summer, pay attention to the bulbs when you dig them and look for a dark brown color in the bulb it will still be attached to what you are trying to save make sure you cut that out it is the botyrtis and I think it stays with the plant and attacks over winter when the plant is stressed and the conditions are right if left in place. The ones that are not mush now but the top comes off in your hand will turn to mush when the spring rains come remove those now as well or cut a slot in them. I left a few last year that I thought might be ok because they showed a small leaf like the bulb was trying to recover but within a month they were gone and the increase as well so better to remove the rotten bulb it will never bloom. Hope this helps I'm hoping ISU can come up with something that is a preventive for me to use going into the fall and winter months but won't know for a while.

Good Luck send me a list of what's lost I may be able to help
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Mar 14, 2016 10:19 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Brad
iowa (Zone 5a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Arlyn.. I can't help with solarization but after my wipeout a couple years ago I worried about planting in the same soil so I tilled all the berms and added a foot of dirt to them where I would be re planting and very few had problems last spring but the bed on the east side of my house was so large I left it alone and just tilled it and replanted in it and had quite a few plants affected so my guess is it does stay in the soil and you may think about moving the plants to a different area for a year or build a berm over that bed with issues.
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Mar 14, 2016 10:53 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Brad
iowa (Zone 5a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Some of the Grand kids of Silk Road coming from the 06-77 Kids Smiling these are all from (Wishes Granted) it looks to be a awesome parent.

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Mar 15, 2016 2:35 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Wisconsin Celebrating Gardening: 2015
(11-156F), (11-164?) are really nice, but (12-149A) steals the show! Love that one.
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Mar 15, 2016 5:45 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Mixing up the numbers, but they re all very interesting.
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Mar 15, 2016 8:20 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
It blows my mind that a cross that produces all pastel combinations, also produces the sixth Iris (12-149A). Aren't Irises amazing?
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Mar 15, 2016 8:32 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
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ARUBA1334 said:

Smile on a stem Lovey dubby
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Lovely subtle color blend.
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Mar 15, 2016 9:55 AM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
[quote="ARUBA1334"]Some of the Grand kids of Silk Road coming from the 06-77 Kids Smiling these are all from (Wishes Granted) it looks to be a awesome parent.

(11-156F)
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My favorite Lovey dubby
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Mar 15, 2016 11:04 AM CST
Name: Cory
Elkhart Co., IN
Charter ATP Member Irises
So I cleaned some more. I've noticed that the ones that have rot, are sunk down to at or below soil level. Could it be that this is the reason the rot had started? I've got pic just need to get them off my phone. Short of digging all the dirt out is there anything else that can be done? I'm going to try and dig the dirt out from around them to see if more air movement will help. Then go and try the comet powder thing on the rotted parts. After some more cleaning.
Cory, Retired Firefighter/EMT

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