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Apr 22, 2017 4:03 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
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Wow, seems like we have having weather oddities everywhere this year.
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May 19, 2017 11:03 PM CST
(Zone 13b)
valleylynn said:Wow, seems like we have having weather oddities everywhere this year.

Hi every one! My first post after reading your informative comments.
I just joined this morning.
I am in Zambia Africa. I love semps a lot. I have had one for around 5 years and made lots of babies from it., so decided to order a tray of 50 plugs from Mountcrest gardens USA.
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They have arrived 2 weeks ago, in a brown paper bag all squashed in, but after reading a lot, I realized that not all seps are equal in surviving our conditions.
This is a picture of my semps after I washed from the soil they were covered in and planted them in just building sand without any organic matter in it, but very small particle sand.
A picture of the ones from USA when they just arrived
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And few days later:

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They are under a tree getting morning sun and late afternoon sun. Our winter is just starting but we dont go bellow 6C and that is at night only. In summer we are not too hot compared to Texas. We are 1400m above sea level.
This is another picture of them a couple of days ago.


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When they came they were terribly etiolated, and all the leaves hunging down vertically. Now I can see new leaves and they are growing upwards. I also removed some chicks from them and planted them.
I check them every day, and so far I dont see any big problems. I watered them ones when they came, and then waited for the soil to dry. Perhaps I shall water them again today since you said they need moisture. I was so scared not to rot them.
I also bought some semps from SA less than a month ago, and those I put in full sun and so far they are doing well. They have actually grown and are getting many pups.


I shall try to take a picture of them today also:
This is a picture of the semp, I had for 5 years. It is planted just in river sand (large particles) but it is mixed with lots of clay inside so gets hard like a rock when it dries. I was contemplating repotting it in another mix.
I dont have perlite here, or even peat mix or compost. I import the compost from abroad but perlite never had, so I use just sand, and some pine bark (also imported)

This are some of the pups I planted from my old semp. I must be honest, they were totally neglected up to now. In full sun, and rarely watered by my gardener. In summer under rains almost every day. Some pups that were planted in garden soil even got rotten a bit but I dried them up and replanted them and they are fine now.

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Now I am wondering if this semps from USA will grow and survive here, since they come from totally different climate and reversed summer plus that.
Any tips for me?
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May 19, 2017 11:38 PM CST
Name: Jo Ann
Washington State (Zone 7a)
Sempervivums
Hi Neli
Welcome!
I think your course sand and pine bark is probably a great mix for your semps. A little pearlite will loosen it up even more. That way you will not have rot when it rains every day
They seem to be recovering from their long journey just fine. The garden soil, as you found out will cause some rot. None of us use Peat in semp. mix...ever. It holds way too much water. Instant rot.
I have grown a couple of ice plants (Delosperma ) straight from South Africa.
They didn't do much for the first month but then were fine.
I am very interested to hear how this works for you.
Keep us posted.
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May 19, 2017 11:44 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Hi Neli, and a big Welcome!
So glad you found your way here. We look forward to ready more posts from you and we all love photos. Hurray!
I agree with ricos, your mix seems to be doing well for you. Keep us posted on the progress of the new semps.
Which ones did you get?
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May 19, 2017 11:59 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Container Gardener Foliage Fan Sempervivums Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Garden Ideas: Master Level
I agree ...we are happy to have you here, Neli. I hope your new colorful Mt Crest semps perk up so that they can keep your faithful pups (we call them chicks) wonderful company! Smiling
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May 20, 2017 12:08 AM CST
(Zone 13b)
ricos said:Hi Neli
Welcome!
I think your course sand and pine bark is probably a great mix for your semps. A little pearlite will loosen it up even more. That way you will not have rot when it rains every day
They seem to be recovering from their long journey just fine. The garden soil, as you found out will cause some rot. None of us use Peat in semp. mix...ever. It holds way too much water. Instant rot.
I have grown a couple of ice plants (Delosperma ) straight from South Africa.
They didn't do much for the first month but then were fine.
I am very interested to hear how this works for you.
Keep us posted.

Thank you for the encouragement. I just got some delos cuttings a month ago from a friend. They managed to flower only at 3-4 cm hight so I was happy. Now I shifted them into wall planters 2 days ago, which I made myself from cement he he he. No planters here like yours so I make all my planters from cement.



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I oeder most of my plants from USA and UK.
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May 20, 2017 12:20 AM CST
(Zone 13b)
valleylynn said:Hi Neli, and a big Welcome!
So glad you found your way here. We look forward to ready more posts from you and we all love photos. Hurray!
I agree with ricos, your mix seems to be doing well for you. Keep us posted on the progress of the new semps.
Which ones did you get?

Dont know what the names are. I bought a tray of plugs from mountcrest gardens I think 50 plugs, and then I forgot I ordered them and ordered again a week later he he he. The second lots has not come yet. Blinking


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Some noid varieties. But I have also ordered from other companies individual ones that I liked. They are not here yet.
I shall open a thread Semps in Africa. If they grow or dont grow it will be known at least and help people.
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May 20, 2017 12:30 AM CST
(Zone 13b)
webesemps said: I agree ...we are happy to have you here, Neli. I hope your new colorful Mt Crest semps perk up so that they can keep your faithful pups (we call them chicks) wonderful company! Smiling

Thank you! I for sure need all the good wishes he he he.
Can anyone help me how to receive email notifications about posts. Did not see it in settings.
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May 20, 2017 6:06 AM CST
(Zone 13b)
valleylynn said:Wow, seems like we have having weather oddities everywhere this year.

Hi every one! My first post after reading your informative comments.
I just joined this morning.
I am in Zambia Africa. I love semps a lot. I have had one for around 5 years and made lots of babies from it., so decided to order a tray of 50 plugs from Mountcrest gardens USA. They have arrived 2 weeks ago, in a brown paper bag all squashed in, but after reading a lot, I realized that not all seps are equal in surviving our conditions.
This is a picture of my semps after I washed from the soil they were covered in and planted them in just building sand without any organic matter in it, but very small particle sand.

Thumb of 2017-05-20/Neli/ae0657
They are under a tree getting morning sun and late afternoon sun. Our winter is just starting but we dont go bellow 6C and that is at night only. In summer we are not too hot compared to Texas. We are 1400m above sea level.
This is another picture of them a couple of days ago.


Thumb of 2017-05-20/Neli/894853
When they came they were terribly etiolated, and all the leaves hunging down vertically. Now I can see new leaves and they are growing upwards. I also removed some chicks from them and planted them.
I check them every day, and so far I dont see any big problems. I watered them ones when they came, and then waited for the soil to dry. Perhaps I shall water them again today since you said they need moisture. I was so scared not to rot them.
I also bought some semps from SA less than a month ago, and those I put in full sun and so far they are doing well. They have actually grown and are getting many pups.



Thumb of 2017-05-20/Neli/a3abce

A picture of the ones from USA when they just arrived
Thumb of 2017-05-20/Neli/0867b8

I shall try to take a picture of them today also:
This is a picture of the semp, I had for 5 years. It is planted just in river sand (large particles) but it is mixed with lots of clay inside so gets hard like a rock when it dries. I was contemplating repotting it in another mix.
I dont have perlite here, or even peat mix or compost. I import the compost from abroad but perlite never had, so I use just sand, and some pine bark (also imported)
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May 28, 2017 7:55 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Texas Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1
Welcome Neli!
You have some challenges in Zambia! How hot does it get in the summer? Maybe the high elevation is a plus , since these are mountain plants.
My best performing Semps are from a NOID mix I bought from Lynn.
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Thought you might like a pic of "African Hosta" in the foreground
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May 28, 2017 8:01 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Texas Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Another NOID from Lynn. I hope I did the right thing by removing the dying base and replanting the chicks. The first pic is from about a month ago and the second is today
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May 28, 2017 9:28 AM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Container Gardener Foliage Fan Sempervivums Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Garden Ideas: Master Level
Yes Anna, your Noids are doing quite well! nodding
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May 28, 2017 10:09 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Raises cows Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Texas Plant Identifier
@canadanna Anna that Drimiopsis maculata looks great. The spots are beginning to get lighter on mine now, but maybe with the cooler weather that arrived today, they'll hang on a bit longer.

My semps had a rough time this winter, so a couple didn't make it. Some are still doing well for me, but I should have moved some inside during the coldest spells.
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May 28, 2017 4:11 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Texas Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1
There were only 2 freezing nights here in the DFW area.
I am surprised that Drimiopsis maculata grows so well in that location. I thought it needed shade
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May 28, 2017 4:17 PM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Raises cows Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Texas Plant Identifier
I have my Drimiopsis mostly in shade. It gets direct sun for about an hour at mid-day, but otherwise it's in dappled shade until mid-afternoon and after that it's in complete shade 'til sundown. I just acquired it last year. It's doing really well. I also try to keep the semps in dappled shade in the summer months. They do better with the shade then. In winter and early spring, they get a lot more sun.
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May 28, 2017 10:09 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Texas Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1
It is great little ground cover.I searched for years to find it. This location gets morning sun until about noon. I have some large pots with tomatoes growing that block the sun, so maybe I can keep the semp pot there through the summer
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May 28, 2017 10:41 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Neli your new semps are looking great, all of them are. They seem to love your growing conditions.

Anna you definitely did the right thing by getting rid of the dead part and replanting the offsets. Boy, they are really looking good. Looks like you figured out what works in your area to keep them happy. Thumbs up
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May 29, 2017 7:00 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Texas Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1
More shade and water than you think!
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May 30, 2017 6:24 PM CST
Name: Johanna P
Aubrey,TX (Zone 8a)
Hi Neli....Welcome!! Hurray!

Hello everyone..just an update: most of my Semps did well this spring..produced a lot of babies, but I have lost some ,too, due to rot..infact, I lost the entire colony of my gloriosum Sad
It's getting hot and very humid now and it's not even 'summer' yet... Crying
Pics of my semp bed/table today..




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May 31, 2017 9:31 AM CST
Moderator
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Wow, Johanna that is so beautiful. With summer just around the corner we will all find out which ones are tough in your growing conditions.
Keep us posted.

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