My neighbor around the corner put these big cellpacks out with the trash and I grabbed them. The ones I used to grow my tomatoes are the small ones next to them.

Really are so much bigger and deeper. That will be what I Need for my tomatoes next season.

Yes, those are the ones! How many did you get?

lovesblooms said:Yes, those are the ones! How many did you get?

Well, there were only 5. But it is good as I actually see them and can compare side by side with the ones that I have. I will be buying lots of these over the winter for next springs tomato plants.

So what's the difference between Blue Lake FM 1 and just plain Blue Lake beans? When I went to look at my Blue Lake seeds I didn't realize I had both both. So after trying to find difference on the web and not really learning anything I opened both packets and in my 8 foot trellis area that I fixed up yesterday I just did half and half. So four feet of Blue Lake FM 1 and four feet just plain Blue Lake.

I put the Kentucky Wonders on this thing that I fixed up yesterday. It is high but only about 3 feet length tops.


Also I put in a 6 foot row of the Tavera Bush beans.

I still have Maxibel Bush beans coming in the mail. I ordered them before I found the Tavera locally so I might not need them. We will see.

Beans planted here-
Bush-
Tavera
Calima
Earliserve
Hildora (yellow)

Pole beans planted-
Blue Lake FM 1
Blue Lake
Kentucky Wonder

I used to grow Blue Lakes 20 years ago. I know they taste good and produce a lot. The seeds are white. The seeds of those Kentucky Wonders were brown.

Trellis netting I ordered in the mail came today. So now I will go out and try it on the posts in back of the eggplants.

Seeds I ordered for there came today. Pole beans.
Emerite from Renees Garden and Monte Gusto and Carminat from Johnnys.

Emmerite is green. Monte Gusto pale yellow and Carminat is purple.

http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-9...
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-9...

I'm still growing the French Gold you recommended from Renees. We love them. What I know about bean seed color, darker the color, the cooler temps for planting in the ground they will take. White ones, need warm soil.

My presprouted Jade haven't broken ground yet. I'll give them a few more days. I know I am being impatient. I have to water them again tomorrow too. Everything is drying out fast with the heat and the wind.

David watered the potatoes, popcorn, pumpkins and extra tomatoes today. Took him two hours and that's with the wand that really puts out the water. Good thing we have a well. I weeded the row of snapdragons and glads and half a row of zinnias and crocosmias. Good thing I watered them heavily yesterday or I wouldn't be able to get the weeds out. The ground is like a brick!

abhege said:I'm still growing the French Gold you recommended from Renees. We love them. What I know about bean seed color, darker the color, the cooler temps for planting in the ground they will take. White ones, need warm soil.

My presprouted Jade haven't broken ground yet. I'll give them a few more days. I know I am being impatient. I have to water them again tomorrow too. Everything is drying out fast with the heat and the wind.

David watered the potatoes, popcorn, pumpkins and extra tomatoes today. Took him two hours and that's with the wand that really puts out the water. Good thing we have a well. I weeded the row of snapdragons and glads and half a row of zinnias and crocosmias. Good thing I watered them heavily yesterday or I wouldn't be able to get the weeds out. The ground is like a brick!

I have never presprouted beans so I don't know if it's better or not. Afew days ago I just planeted some bush bean seeds and some are already just popping up. So really fast on that.

Worst germination I had was on the Hildora which are a yellow bush bean but now I have used up all those seeds and will not be ordering more.

I had a packet of French Gold from last year so I sowed those the other day. I hope they do come up and that the seeds are not too old. They are tasty, very tender and sweet.

Oh and I didn't know that about the color of the seeds.

Good that you got lots of weeding done. I pull weeds most days and wonder where they all come from.

I pull weeds most days and wonder where they all come from.



It doesn't take long for them to get out of control.

Your French Gold seeds should be fine. Mine were at least two years old and they came up great. I also saved seeds last year and those came up good too.

abhege said: I pull weeds most days and wonder where they all come from.



It doesn't take long for them to get out of control.

Your French Gold seeds should be fine. Mine were at least two years old and they came up great. I also saved seeds last year and those came up good too.

Good. I already have a spot reserved for them.

Too bad you don't like Italian style beans, Rita. Bumper crop this year and these Early Risers beat my bush beans by over a week.
I have never noted that white seeded beans are any less cold soil tolerant than darker colors. There is a wide variance among varieties. This one is white seeded and very cold tolerant. Probably can't take heat but it is so quick off the blocks, should get a good crop before the triple digit days set in.

Wow! Nice beans. I just can't get past the shape. I need to work on that.

Interesting that those are white seeds. I have always been told the lighter the color, the warmer the soil needs to be. So, another myth debunked!

On beans, several of my Dragon Tongue bush beans sprouted--exactly ten days after planting. I hope they live up to reviews...

One thing I love about Italian-type beans is that they work so well for French-style beans -- LOL, I didn't think about how strange that would sound until I typed it out! Anyway, I have a hand-cranked gadget to make the French-style beans and the flat-podded ones are perfect for that purpose

Weedwhacker said:One thing I love about Italian-type beans is that they work so well for French-style beans -- LOL, I didn't think about how strange that would sound until I typed it out! Anyway, I have a hand-cranked gadget to make the French-style beans and the flat-podded ones are perfect for that purpose

Do you mean the ones where they are cut into slivers?

Newyorkrita said:

Do you mean the ones where they are cut into slivers?

Kind of longish, narrow strips -- not sure if that's what you meant by "slivers."

Weedwhacker said:

Kind of longish, narrow strips -- not sure if that's what you meant by "slivers."

Yup, that's it. I do like beans that way but when I am buying I usually forget to buy those and just get the regular cut ones. Of course if I am making my own then no fancy stuff here and I just cut up the green beans in the easiest way.

What kinds of dishes do you like slivering your beans for, Sandy?

Also, I'm thinking about my determinate tomatoes. Does anyone think I'll have time to plant cucumbers after they're done?

farmerdill said:Too bad you don't like Italian style beans, Rita. Bumper crop this year and these Early Risers beat my bush beans by over a week.

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I have never noted that white seeded beans are any less cold soil tolerant than darker colors. There is a wide variance among varieties. This one is white seeded and very cold tolerant. Probably can't take heat but it is so quick off the blocks, should get a good crop before the triple digit days set in.

A bumper crop but for some reason those flat podded types just look off to me! I know I should get brave and try growing some as I might be in for a pleasant surprise.

lovesblooms said:?

Also, I'm thinking about my determinate tomatoes. Does anyone think I'll have time to plant cucumbers after they're done?

I would say no. Just not enough time to get them in and planted and growing.

Can't you find a spot somewhere in the garden where you could grow the cucumbers on something vertical? They don't take up as much space if you let them climb. It would be a shame to miss out on growing fresh cukes.

lovesblooms said:On beans, several of my Dragon Tongue bush beans sprouted--exactly ten days after planting. I hope they live up to reviews...

Hope yours produce quickly!!

I got curious and looked them up. At Baker Creek these have page after page after page of great reviews. People love them and many say they are their very favorite bean.

I am wondering if I should try them as I do like to try new to me varieties. Just not sure but I guess the looks alone would get peoples attention.

I have another space, yes. Was just thinking what to do with the space when the tomatoes are gone. Hate to waste so many empty spots--my garden is on a space premium.