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Name: Signet
South Western Ontario , Canada (Zone 6a)
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signet
Jan 7, 2016 11:57 AM CST
I have been out and about checking out the gardens ( we have no snow ) as I am working a daylily trade with another lady here in Ontario . I have so much in my garden i thought I would post to see if anyone else would be interested in swapping plants to be shipped out come spring . It would only involve the cost of shipping as daylilies or other plants would be swapped on a one to one basis for free . Daylilies would be the primary focus UF's , spiders and bagel forms ,but I am willing to swap other plants too......would hate to have to compost them .

I grow about 1000 named daylilies at this point.

If you are interested .....post here and then we can work out details privately .

Hope to hear from some Canadian daylily enthusiasts .
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Name: Mary Anne Jay
Wentworth, NS, Canada (Zone 5a)
Region: Canadian
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Raven
Jan 8, 2016 7:08 AM CST
I'm in. I have been wondering how this could happen for Canadians. There are pictures of my modest collection on my page. Please send me a private message.
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Name: Liz Quinn
Huntersville,NC (Zone 7a)
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Emquinn
Jan 8, 2016 8:10 AM CST
I have a couple of questions, please. Can Canadian Daylilies be exported to US and do you think they would do well in zone 7a, North Carolina? Appreciate your response.
Liz
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Name: Signet
South Western Ontario , Canada (Zone 6a)
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signet
Jan 8, 2016 8:42 AM CST
Hi Liz , yes Canadian daylililes can be exported and most will do well in N.C. but a Phyto Sanitary Certificate is required and the daylilies need to be inspected by the person's local agriculture department at both ends ( i.e. in your state for the ones you are wanting to ship and the canadian you are trading with whose plants will be coming to you )

Now on the Canadian end this can be done quite easily and inexpensively ( I have done it a couple of times to send plants into the USA) . What is required is that the plants are dug up and cleaned of all and I do mean all soil and the foliage is cut back and washed so that no insect or insect eggs are being harbored by the plant . The agent then inspects the plants and sometimes takes sample of the soil where they were grown to test . If all is good the certificate is issued and shipping the daylilies can go ahead . Additional costs are incurred for shipping of course and one must have all the proper documents attached to the shipment . It really isn't a difficult process but a necessary one . In my province the last phyto I got cost me $13.

The problem really stems from the other end . I.E. the USA . It used to be quite inexpensive to get a phyto certificate , however the costs of a phyto certificate in the USA varies from state to state and have gone up dramatically in the last few years. It used to cost nothing for a phyto in Alabama . I ordered many plants from a seller in Alabama at that time .

At the present time a phyto certificate can range from $25 in one state(Connecticut )to $50 in another state (Massachusetts) to over $100 in another (Georgia) . Many daylily sellers have stopped shipping to Canada I believe because of these costs (although it is the buyer who pays for these costs)however the shipper has to to do the work that is involved to get the certificate .

In actual fact during my experiences of ordering daylilies from the USA I discovered that there is supposed to be the same type of process involved in shipping from State to State in the USA. At least that was what I was told .

So if you were to want to trade you would have to go thru the process and the costs for obtaining a phyto certificate in your state to ship the plants out to your trade partner in Canada. Most people are not interested in doing this which is why I posted for trading only within Canada.

However , if you are willing I would be more than pleased to trade with you if I have something you want and vice versa

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Name: Signet
South Western Ontario , Canada (Zone 6a)
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Jan 8, 2016 8:44 AM CST
Hi Raven ,

Thanks for posting and showing interest in this trade . I hope we get a few more people interested but even if we don't we can always trade with each other . I will email you shortly and we can "chat" further . Thanks contacting me .
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jan 8, 2016 8:25 PM CST
I have never ran into that situation on sending plants from one state to another. I would hate to see something like that happen.
Name: Signet
South Western Ontario , Canada (Zone 6a)
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Jan 8, 2016 10:15 PM CST
Seedfork , I am sure you haven't . Check with your local extention or agriculture office .
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South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
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Polymerous
Jan 8, 2016 11:54 PM CST
I have had a couple of shipments (from different states within the US) intercepted by the ag sniffer dogs coming into CA. (These were from Lily Auction wins, but at least one, if I recall correctly, was from a purchase from a "nursery"... which did not have any kind of nursery inspection label on the box.) In most cases I ended up receiving the shipment (after it had been inspected by a biologist, along with a strongly worded letter about protecting CA's agriculture etc. etc.); in one case the shipment was either returned to the sender or destroyed (I forget what they said the issue was), and I got an even more strongly worded letter.

What is interesting to me is that many daylily nurseries make a point of claiming to be state inspected, etc. etc., and the plants will come in a box with an inspection certificate label. But not all... When it comes to irises (I have not bought all that many of them), I can't recall if there were inspection certificates on the boxes or not, and I don't recall ever seeing "state inspected nursery" claims on the websites, as is the case with the daylily nurseries. Surely there aren't different rules for daylilies and irises? Confused

The question is, is one supposed to have inspections and certifications for any plants that one ships within the US? There's an awful lot of plant swapping (and selling) and pass-alonging going on in this country, of all sorts of plants. Some of those have an electronic trail (eBay, Lily Auction) but not all of them. I doubt that all of those plant shipments have been inspected and certified.
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Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Hemlady
Jan 9, 2016 7:17 AM CST
When my garden is state inspected they send me a certificate in the mail. Michigan does not give you extra certificates to apply to packages when you ship your plants out. Also, at inspection time the inspector will usually tell you which states not to ship to. I was told that I cannot ship to California, Arizona, Washington, Oregon and New Mexico.
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Name: Signet
South Western Ontario , Canada (Zone 6a)
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signet
Jan 9, 2016 12:22 PM CST
All states have plant shipping requirements . Some are more restrictive than others, California and Oregon being two of the most restrictive states. It is important to note that the reasons are to prevent infestations of insects or noxious weeds from entering states that don't have them . Soil bearing insect eggs/larvae , viruses , bacteria and noxious weed seeds can very quickly cause problems in a state where that problem didn't exist before . Backyard gardeners don't seem to be aware of the requirements . This is something everyone should be educated about
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Name: Liz Quinn
Huntersville,NC (Zone 7a)
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Emquinn
Jan 9, 2016 5:49 PM CST
Heather
Thank You! for the information about Canadian to US states shipping. I think I will defer at this time.
Liz
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Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jan 9, 2016 8:30 PM CST
Hemlady said:When my garden is state inspected they send me a certificate in the mail. Michigan does not give you extra certificates to apply to packages when you ship your plants out. Also, at inspection time the inspector will usually tell you which states not to ship to. I was told that I cannot ship to California, Arizona, Washington, Oregon and New Mexico.


Good to know. Thank you for the info!
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Hemlady
Jan 10, 2016 5:47 AM CST
Thanks to both DogsNDaylilies and Seedfork for the acorns. Smiling Smiling
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Name: Signet
South Western Ontario , Canada (Zone 6a)
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Jan 10, 2016 11:23 AM CST
Can anyone tell me about these acorns and thumbs up thingys . I dont understand why they are being given to me ( mostly thumbs up) or what their purpose is if there is one . What do I do with them (if anything) and am I supposed to reciprocate? that is if someone gives me one am I supposed to give one back ?

Also Is there a forum for general questions cuz seems I am asking questions whereever i think I might get an answer and maybe these questions are better placed in a "general " forum .


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Name: Signet
South Western Ontario , Canada (Zone 6a)
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Jan 10, 2016 1:17 PM CST
So do you ship daylilies to Canada then Cynthia ? I know I have bought seeds from you before but curious to know if you ship plants to Canada. I know the cost of a phyto from Michigan is $40.00 which is really not too bad considering some of the other states prices for a phyto.

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Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jan 10, 2016 1:49 PM CST
signet said:Can anyone tell me about these acorns and thumbs up thingys . I dont understand why they are being given to me ( mostly thumbs up) or what their purpose is if there is one . What do I do with them (if anything) and am I supposed to reciprocate? that is if someone gives me one am I supposed to give one back ?

Also Is there a forum for general questions cuz seems I am asking questions whereever i think I might get an answer and maybe these questions are better placed in a "general " forum .




Thumbs up is similar to a 'like' on Facebook...it is just a way of saying 'I like what you said', 'I agree with what you said', or sometimes even just a way of acknowledging someone else's post and saying 'I saw that post, I hear ya'....it just sort of depends on the circumstances. (If someone gives you a thumbs up for a post where you say "man, what a terrible day it was!"...it's probably someone just acknowledging your situation who can relate or who is expressing sympathy in their own way without using words or emoticons.)

Acorns are less common because collecting acorns is harder to do, (it requires a bit of work, usually). As for receiving acorns for posts...most people give acorns for particularly great ideas or otherwise exceptional posts. The purpose?....Acorns can be collected to win raffle tickets in the ATP Not a Raffle Raffles (which typically run each month Spring-Fall, roughly).

Acorns, as mentioned, are a little harder to earn, but you can do so in a variety of ways:
1) submit photos to the database (limited to one per type of photo per plant)
2) submit informative articles that get posted
3) submit information to plants of the day
4) update database information
5) receive them from other members for particularly helpful posts
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Dog Lover Daylilies Organic Gardener Houseplants Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1
I helped beta test the first seed swap
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DogsNDaylilies
Jan 10, 2016 1:51 PM CST
...I believe I also saw references somewhere to a time when acorns could also be used to buy ATP shirts or other wearables. Can anyone confirm this? ( @dave )

Are there any other uses for the acorns other than the NARR (and to give to others to show appreciation)?
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jan 10, 2016 1:57 PM CST
DogsNDaylilies said:
Are there any other uses for the acorns other than the NARR (and to give to others to show appreciation)?


You can use acorns to buy microbadges. I seem to recall that some of the other things acorns can be used for apply only within the USA and Heather, like me, is in Canada.

Edited to add, Heather asked about a general site forum, there's the welcome and help center forum:
http://garden.org/forums/view/welcome/
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Name: Signet
South Western Ontario , Canada (Zone 6a)
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Jan 10, 2016 3:01 PM CST
thanks Sooby for the info on the thumbs up .......can you tell me why I would want microbadges please?
Thank you too for the link . I will check it out shortly.
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Jan 10, 2016 3:29 PM CST

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Yeah we sell ATP shirts for acorns from time to time. When we do it they cost 125 acorns per shirt with free shipping to US addresses.

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