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Mar 23, 2016 8:53 AM CST
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stillwood: So, are you suggesting the problem was my cooking? Smiling
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Mar 23, 2016 8:56 AM CST
Name: Anna Z.
Monroe, WI
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My SU has NO taste........he LOVES those ghastly orange slices. Eeewewww................
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Mar 23, 2016 8:57 AM CST
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MissingRosie:

There is a website (or was a few yrs ago) that deals specifically in a lot of those old candy items that are hard to find and/or no longer available elsewhere. I'm not familiar with the candy corsages thing, btw.
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Mar 23, 2016 9:02 AM CST
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The homemade dog treat I tasted by accident was made from ground chicken carcass, bones included. Bleh! Nothing harmful. All human grade ingredients. Plus, unlike commercial treats, mine are over 50% meat, bones, etc. I'm thinking it's the bones that taste so horrible.
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Mar 23, 2016 9:03 AM CST
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I like an orange slice now and then. Can't eat more than maybe 2 of them though.
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Mar 23, 2016 9:09 AM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
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Those orange slices give me shivers...the sugar crunch on the teeth...BUT I do not think the flavor is bad
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Mar 23, 2016 9:17 AM CST
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My brother and I were in charge of feeding the dogs. One day we decided to taste each of the kibble types in the dry dog food to see which was best. We could not come to a consensus.
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Mar 23, 2016 9:22 AM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
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The proof is whether or not you went back for seconds
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Mar 23, 2016 9:28 AM CST
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Last night Widget had me belting out a loud chorus of Old MacDonald Had A Farm while trying to bathe. He was marooned on the bed one wall away, left there to keep him sequestered and out of trouble. He got lonely and started whining. My boisterous, albeit off-key, singing kept him quiet & content. Just hope there were no neighbors in hearing range at the time. The things we do for pets.
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Mar 23, 2016 9:29 AM CST
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None of the kibble types were that good. Smiling
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Mar 23, 2016 12:18 PM CST
Name: Sally
Nichols, iowa (Zone 5a)
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Dream,
Laughing! I'm sure the one I tasted was the cheapest dog treat around. But they might have been Milkbone.
Poor Widget, but that sounds like it worked for him!
A small town has no secrets except itself
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Mar 23, 2016 1:07 PM CST
Madison, Alabama (formerly NC)
Everybody - I was old enough to know better than to eat a dog biscuit (I think it was a milkbone brand). But I like to try things - in the vegetable world. I don't much like eating things that have faces or fins - but any grain or vegetable item is worth trying. However, I don't expect my little Charlie to eat just vegetables - that would not be in line with his canine nature. He actually rarely eats a treat of any kind - which makes training a bit more difficult. Nature is what it is.
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Mar 23, 2016 2:13 PM CST
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Hmm. Milkbone seems to be coming in as the favorite of kids everywhere. :-)

billyporter: Maltese have been bread for centuries as companion dogs, originally for ladies of the aristocracy who often carried the tiny dogs around everywhere in the sleeves of their gowns leading to the term 'sleeve dogs'. Unfortunately, all the centuries of breeding specifically as companions has made these dogs overly dependent on human companionship and ill suited to time alone. Still there are times when I need a break from Widget for a few minutes; He's like a toddler who never grows up. Last night was the 1st time I ever tried singing for him, but it seemed to work. Talking also worked, but I quickly ran out of things to say. My loud and emphatic rendition of Old MacDonald seemed to entertain him (probably made him laugh) with the 'oink-oinks' here and 'moo-moos' there, here an 'arf', there a 'ruff'.

Years ago I was the caregiver for my mother who had early onset Alzheimer's. To survive in that situation, you must of necessity learn creative ways to placate and sooth those with whom you cannot reason.
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Mar 24, 2016 4:51 AM CST
Name: Sally
Nichols, iowa (Zone 5a)
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Stillwood,
I refuse to eat anything that came from water, except canned freshwater salmon. I can't bear to watch anyone kill a lobster just to eat it.

Dream,
Interesting to know why your dog acts like it does. I can see how he's dependent on you because of breeding.
Alzheimer's. I wish there was treatment for it.
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Mar 24, 2016 9:58 AM CST
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Incidentally, that aspect of Maltese dog behavior is not just my personal opinion or conclusion. It's actually part of the information contained in the breed standard. They should not be left alone (w/o human companionship) for more than 2-3hrs at a time and even then not daily. It is said to be unduly stressful for them, painful even. I didn't know this when I bought my 1st Maltese.

Maltese are very cute but are also extremely high maintenance. This makes them subject to abuse as people buy them for their cuteness and then grow frustrated with the extreme amount of work required to care for them. Consequently, it is actually very difficult to buy a Maltese puppy from a conscientious breeder. It's easier to get a security clearance than to be cleared to buy a Maltese puppy from a conscientious breeder.

Before a conscientious Maltese breeder will consider selling you a puppy, you 1st have to answer a boatload of questions and provide documentation & evidence to support your statements. If you had a dog previously, especially a Maltese, you have to provide the name of and access to the veterinarian you used and also the groomer (so the breeder can assess whether the dog was properly cared for). If you live alone and have a job, they will ask you who will keep the puppy/dog while you are at work. If you say that you plan to leave it alone, most breeders will refuse to sell you a Maltese puppy (because they are not to be left alone all day). Widget used to stay in doggie daycare while I was at work, because he got into too much trouble when left alone at home.

I found the process of buying a Maltese extremely heartwarming due to the care that is bestowed upon these dogs by conscientious breeders and due to their unwillingness to sell to just anyone. It is, however, equally distressing to learn that the reason for all of this is the neglect and abuse these sweet but ultra-high maintenance dogs often endure at the hands of buyers who fail to realize the amount of care required for that cute puppy.

When purchasing my 2nd Maltese (Widget), I talked to about a dozen different top breeders around the country (Widget was flown here from elsewhere in the country) and got the same basic deal from all of them. I would approach them as someone who was there to buy a dog but would quickly learn that I would 1st need to sell myself to earn the right to purchase the dog. They would not sell the puppy until and unless all of their requirements were met and they were sure the puppy was going to a home where it would be cared for properly. And it was very much the opposite of our court system. I was always presumed guilty and required to prove otherwise. It's much easier to get approved if you have had a Maltese dog before and can provide proof (vet & groomer) of proper care. It's much harder for 1st time buyers, because breeders know most people don't realize the work and expense involved in caring for these dogs and also know how quickly people grow frustrated with the high maintenance and end up abusing or neglecting the dog.

When I was looking to buy my 2nd Maltese (Widget), I was extremely responsible, had a very good job, & could provide proof that my 1st Maltese received excellent care. She had a very aggressive cancer at age 2, had 3 major surgeries that were quite expensive, and ultimately lived to age 11, even though Drs didn't initially expect her to live more than 6mo past diagnosis. Despite having all this going for me, over half of the country's top breeders turned me down. I was standing there holding the money, and they would not sell me the puppy.

The breeders who turned me down did so for 2 reasons. Some refused because I wanted them to send the puppy (alone) by plane; they would only sell me the puppy if I drove across country to pick it up in person. They said the trip alone in the plane's cargo area would be too traumatic. They were right, btw. Widget took that trip, and to this day (11yrs later) he has to take Valium to ride in the car. Widget sleeps like a baby through thunderstorms and 4th of July fireworks but panics when you turn the car engine on. A few who were willing to send the dog by plane still would not sell to me, because I had a job and planned to leave the dog home alone during work hours. As I mentioned above, Widget ultimately ended up staying at a small, doggie day-care (adjacent to and run by his vet).

Unfortunately, there are always the unscrupulous dealers who will sell you anything for a buck, but I did find it heartwarming to realize the extent both the Maltese Assoc and its conscientious breeders go to keep these dogs out of the hands of people who can't or won't take proper care of them. Maltese dogs are extraordinarily sweet. I bought my 1st one for the look, but I bought my 2nd one because they are so amazingly sweet and eager to please. That said, I will not buy another; I no longer have the energy to deal with their maintenance needs which are HUGE (beyond anything you can imagine).
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Mar 25, 2016 10:35 AM CST
Name: Sally
Nichols, iowa (Zone 5a)
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Dream,
Good for the Maltese breeders! That was all very interesting.
You have given two puppies much love and a good home. In return you are rewarded with a sweet dog.
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Mar 26, 2016 1:23 AM CST
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I thought of you last night, DoS, when a whole family of raccoons came for dinner. Five of them. Cutest thing I've seen this year.
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Mar 26, 2016 10:15 PM CST
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Heads up, DOS



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Mar 27, 2016 12:41 AM CST
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Thank you, BillyPorter,

I get a little carried away sometimes. 2 sweet dogs, btw.
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Mar 27, 2016 12:46 AM CST
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zuzu said:I thought of you last night, DoS, when a whole family of raccoons came for dinner. Five of them. Cutest thing I've seen this year.


Watching and interacting with the tiny kits when they were 1st old enough to leave the nest/den were my absolute favorite part of the whole raccoon experience. And it is that time now, time for the 1st kits to be showing up in yards as their moms begin to take them along. I'm jealous!

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