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Mar 24, 2016 8:48 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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Henhouse said:

For what it's worth... This first picture looks typical of the foliage and stems of Dr. Huey to me.

These two pictures are two different roses, right?


The first picture shows what, to me, looks to be two different roses. The little one growing horizontally does not look like Dr Huey. It has leaves with seven leaflets; none of my Dr Huey plants nor those I can see in the database have more than five. Perhaps it is one of the original old roses?
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Mar 24, 2016 10:41 AM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
God I would love for that to be the case, but what I'm interpreting all of them have died back, but we will see.
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Mar 24, 2016 3:31 PM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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Porkpal, you have Eagle eyes!!
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Mar 24, 2016 3:47 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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I was more impressed that I could count to seven...
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Mar 24, 2016 6:51 PM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
You do have a point... those aren't the same style. PLOT TWIST
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Mar 24, 2016 6:57 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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PP ... great catch ... I tip my hat to you.
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
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Mar 24, 2016 9:41 PM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
Also..... I found a rose bush she forgot she had as well. I'm planting Saturday and will take pictures before after.
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Mar 26, 2016 3:21 PM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
ALL ROSES UPROOTED AND TRIMMED! too many pictures to show but I have 7 plants... one was 3 plants together. Anyways, location wise will this do?
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The last picture is the same as the 1st, just a different angle
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Mar 26, 2016 3:26 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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Locations look good to me. I hope your roses thrive. Smiling
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Mar 26, 2016 3:58 PM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
Actually I was thinking one single on if possible, and here is a general summary of my roses pruned now. All 8 or so appear similar.
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Mar 26, 2016 4:02 PM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
They all appear alive, just dead looking bases
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Opinions on care? I'm going to put dirt over them for the nite because it will take me forever to plant....wherever that will be tomorrow
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Mar 26, 2016 4:05 PM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
God, I have no idea what to do with this situation
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Mar 26, 2016 9:41 PM CST
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I would like to comment on photo #3:

It is unique. Well, if it were me (I do not try to have perfect shaped plants), I would re plant but maybe tilt it slightly when planting so it looks a little more upright. But plan ahead where you're putting it because it grows to the side, so it doesn't grow into anything next to it. I would trim off the bottom most branch in that photo, because you do not want it touching the ground. Then as it grows, train it to grow more upright, but it will want to do that anyway.

Wow, those roots are a bear. I hope you have a digging bar!
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Mar 26, 2016 10:10 PM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
ok, I will DEFINATELY try to turn that one as vertical as possible haha
I couldn' believe some of these plants Alyssa, nothing to them, yet alive. Fighting.
They have definately earnt my respect for being this resilient!
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Mar 27, 2016 12:38 PM CST
Name: Lee-Roy
Bilzen, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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Roses are hardy plants, they can whithstand alot of abuse. But with little fibrous roots they'll have a hell of a job to do to flower. They might not even this season and instead concentrate on establishing underground. Good oppurtunity to see how they grow and plan your pruning accordingly. Btw, roses do well in clay soils, so that shouldn't be a problem if that's the case. The siting looks good to me too.
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Apr 8, 2016 6:30 PM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
I still hope people can see what I'm posting, know it's been a while but here is 3 hours of back breaking labor. NOW, should I use any of that clay I dug out? Rotation it with the organic matter behind it? Or not even touch it. o and how long can this clay preserve matter? My god, it has been that deep forever, I know, because we have NEVER dug there, like 4-5 feet down I got black bark with white inside it, not as decomposed as I thought it should be.. and look at these Worms I found at 4 feet down, in the four foot clay!
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Apr 9, 2016 6:00 AM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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I'd mix compost with the clay. Its good for your plants roots to have contact with native soil, and clay is good at holding moisture and nutrients in the soil- as long as it is well drained and combined with organic matter, keeping it should work out well.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Apr 9, 2016 4:24 PM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
Thank you Gemini, always appreciate it
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Apr 12, 2016 5:51 PM CST
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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
Ok, so in terms of soil, do you have any recommendation? I have a spot picked out 25% clay 25% pooopy chicken wood shavings hay 25% humic 25%compost

Is this OK, and will the acidity be effected too much or little?
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Apr 12, 2016 9:43 PM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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Sounds great! ...as long as the chicken poo is well composted.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi

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