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May 26, 2011 3:10 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gramps
High in the Colorado Rocky mou
Charter ATP Member
As I was searching through my extensive private library (at last count, there are over 10,000 books, reports, etc) I located a real treasure trove of sempervivum related material.

I think that of all the goodies located, were the physical copies of many editions of the publications from England of The Sempervivum Society. Many of these were sent to me by the late David Ford.

David was one of the "giants" in the world of sempervivum.

I did a write-up about David in one of the issues of SempWorld. I will convert the article to a small .pdf and post it within the next couple days.

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Some of the great posts that have been added to my original quest to find "Michell's Gold", have asked many questions related to my collection, web sites, etc.

A short bio about me:
Real name: Glen "Gramps" Mentgen

A very senior citizen (now into my 8th decade), widowed (wife died about 6 years ago); have three children, all of which are greatly successful in their lives and all of which I am *very* proud.

My sedum/semp collection isn't in the greatest condition due to a couple events: the collapse of the roof on the shade house last winter and the deer munching on them. But the main cause of the deterioration is probably the fact that I "died" back in 1999 (yes I died and the doctors brought me back) and for several years, I did not have the strength to maintain the collection as it deserved. Even today, I can't work on the collection for more than a couple hours at a time.

Education/career: I have no formal training in botany, horticulture... all self taught. My degree is Aerospace Engineer (rocket scientist), having worked on many of the major space projects. The one that I'm most proud of is my work on the Mars Viking project in the 1975-76 time frame.

Horticultural interests: Have had dirt under my finger nails for as long as I can remember. It turned into a "business" when my farther-in-law (who just recently passed at the age of 101) and I formed B&G Greenhouse, which specialized in succulents. This when I became interested in sedums, semps, etc.

Other activities: have written a couple of books (sole author and co-author with my daughter Lynn). I hesitate even mentioned this fact because I don't want this to be construed as a "commercial".

Website that I have and/or have an association with: (1) Farmboys.com: site that I sell my "Money Does Grow On Trees" ebook; (2) Cinderblockgardens.com which sells an ebook that Lynn and I co-authored.
(3) TheLivingFarm.org site which is Lynn's main site related to her CSA (community supported agriculture) operation (I am the "web master"); and there are others, but none that are horticultural related.

Location: As stated in my profile, I live high up in the Rocky Mountains in Colorado (see picture of Mt Lamborn that is in my backyard). I moved to this location back in 1996 to be closer to Lynn. I purchased two acres of land which as nothing but weeds... house with weeds. Since then I have propagated and planted my own private forest of some 1600+ trees/shrubs, etc. The neighbors ask me why so many trees... so I tell them that I plan to start a nudist colony... they never ask again. Smiling Rolling my eyes. Hilarious!

Other loves: my dogs. I have had many types of dogs over the years: cockapoo, doberman, great danes, visulas, whippet, and border collies. I recently lost my favorite border collie, Jobie ... she was just 2 months short of being 20 years old. This has left a huge hole in my heart. Fortunately, I had acquired another BC, Tess, a few years earlier as a potential replacement for Jobie. Tess and I are still making the adjustment to the loss of Jobie.
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May 26, 2011 6:50 AM CST
Name: BlueFox
Grand Forks, B.C. Cdn. Zone 5A (Zone 4a)
Romantic & Rustic, Xeric & Organic
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Sempervivums Sedums Garden Art I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Region: Canadian Cactus and Succulents Xeriscape Garden Ideas: Level 1
What an incredibly story! I hope when I'm in my eighties I can 'only do a couple of hours' in the garden. Good for you.

I'm so intrigued that you are the webmaster; just within the past two years I've started my own websites, and now have two of them to run. It's so much fun, I don't know what I did before! Looking forward to more from you, Gramps. Please share, we're greedy that way!
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May 26, 2011 7:13 AM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida (Zone 8a)
Walk in Peace / I'm Timber's Mom.
Miniature Gardening Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! I sent a postcard to Randy! Tip Photographer I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
Mules Garden Ideas: Level 2 Sempervivums Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: United States of America Beekeeper
What a wonderful little Biography for us . It is wonderful. Keep on Going Gramps,, you are getting many fans to your knowledge...
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May 26, 2011 8:10 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gramps
High in the Colorado Rocky mou
Charter ATP Member
As promised, here is the information on David Ford:

I've uploaded two .PDF files:

[1] the biography of David Ford from my SempWorld

http://bit.ly/jAXzXe

[2] I located an obituary on David so I also made a .PDF of it for you

http://bit.ly/iG4f9y
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May 26, 2011 9:09 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Gramps, I just knew you'd have amazing stories for us. Thanks for sharing! Lovey dubby You're going strong because it sounds like you never stop learning and doing. I love your response to your neighbors about why you planted so many tress! Rolling on the floor laughing Sorry to hear of your recent loss of Jobie. I know how hard that is to go through. But at almost 20 years old it sounds like she had a very good life.

Thanks also for the new PDF files. Really appreciate you taking the time to do this for us.
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May 26, 2011 9:24 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Gramps what a way for me to start my day off. Thank you so much for your bio above. What an interesting life you have had. Give your Tess a big hug from me. The name of my all time soul mate dog, Sis, my wonderful Border Collie.
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I have started adding your links to your first post so we don't lose them in the thread. Hope that's alright with you?

I have to leave for the day, but will check back in when I get back home later today. Can't wait to see what I will find here next.
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May 26, 2011 11:03 AM CST
Name: BlueFox
Grand Forks, B.C. Cdn. Zone 5A (Zone 4a)
Romantic & Rustic, Xeric & Organic
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Sempervivums Sedums Garden Art I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Region: Canadian Cactus and Succulents Xeriscape Garden Ideas: Level 1
I read the obituary of David Ford - that was a bit sad, at the end of his life, being kind of abandoned. One thing that stood out for me was that there was absolutely no mention of who wrote that. The only thing is the link to Fernwood Nursery. Odd.

I should do a web page about the history of Sempervivum, and not copy that but re-write it. I wonder if there are any more pictures that would be usable?
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May 26, 2011 12:46 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gramps
High in the Colorado Rocky mou
Charter ATP Member
Lynn... Glad to see that you have shared to love of a border collie... that more people should be so lucky. Of all the dogs that I have had over the years, the border collie has been my all time favorite.

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I had her cremated with the plans that when I die, I will also be cremated, our ashes will be mixed and spread over the Continental Divide... we will always be together.

The second picture is of my Tess... what a sweetheart.

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May 26, 2011 1:05 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida (Zone 8a)
Walk in Peace / I'm Timber's Mom.
Miniature Gardening Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! I sent a postcard to Randy! Tip Photographer I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
Mules Garden Ideas: Level 2 Sempervivums Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: United States of America Beekeeper
Beautiful, Both the dog and the Remembrace to her.
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Aug 7, 2011 5:05 PM CST
Name: Kate
NEKingdom of Vermont (Zone 3a)
www.LabourofLoveLandscaping.com
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Sempervivums Garden Ideas: Level 1 Plant and/or Seed Trader Tropicals
Thoroughly enjoyed the PDF files. Would love to trade anytime you have the time.

Here's my website and lots of photos of semps: www.labouroflovelandscaping.com
Kate Kennedy Butler
Glover, Vermont

life without music would be a mistake Nietzsche
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Aug 7, 2011 5:08 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Kate, Gramps (Glen) is working on a huge surprise for semp lovers/collectors. It is so amazing I have a hard time wrapping my mind around it.
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Aug 7, 2011 6:17 PM CST
Henderson, NC (Zone 7a)
Charter ATP Member Tip Photographer I sent a postcard to Randy! Garden Ideas: Level 2 Sempervivums Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Dog Lover Daylilies Region: United States of America
Gramps I don't begin to know anything about Semps except that I love them. Now I'm going to add you to my Semp. love collection. Our dear friend Lynn sent me so many wonderful "Chicks", and I ordered some, now let the collection continue.
Love reading your knowledge. Please post pictures as you can.
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Aug 12, 2011 5:41 PM CST
Name: Kate
NEKingdom of Vermont (Zone 3a)
www.LabourofLoveLandscaping.com
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Sempervivums Garden Ideas: Level 1 Plant and/or Seed Trader Tropicals
valleylynn said:Kate, Gramps (Glen) is working on a huge surprise for semp lovers/collectors. It is so amazing I have a hard time wrapping my mind around it.


The suspense is driving me mad!
Kate Kennedy Butler
Glover, Vermont

life without music would be a mistake Nietzsche
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Aug 12, 2011 7:08 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
It is worth being driven mad over Kate. I am really excited about it. He has really been spending most of his waking hours working on it.
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Aug 12, 2011 8:13 PM CST
Name: Kate
NEKingdom of Vermont (Zone 3a)
www.LabourofLoveLandscaping.com
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Sempervivums Garden Ideas: Level 1 Plant and/or Seed Trader Tropicals
When will the veil be lifted?
Kate Kennedy Butler
Glover, Vermont

life without music would be a mistake Nietzsche
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Aug 12, 2011 10:19 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
It will still be awhile Kate. You can't believe the amount of material that is going into it. You all will be the first to know when it's ready. : )
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Jan 26, 2013 7:44 AM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
Why did this thread terminate in mid stride?
Regards,
Arif.
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Jan 26, 2013 9:23 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Good morning Arif.
Gramps has dropped from sight. I hope he is alright. I tried emailing him, but no response. He is quite elderly.
The documents where never completed.
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Jan 26, 2013 12:55 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
Sempervivums Sedums Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Cactus and Succulents Container Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 1
Garden Art Birds Dog Lover Cat Lover Region: Pacific Northwest Hummingbirder
When I first read this thread (shortly after joining ATP, I seriously thought about going down there to save his semps! - it wasn't feasible, but I had thought of it Thumbs up And I too hope he's okay! He seems like a semp community treasure, one who should have his plants and work recorded in some fashion I tip my hat to you. I tip my hat to you.
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Jan 26, 2013 2:35 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Container Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers hot summers Multi-Region Gardener
I agree with Greg 100%. Lynn, wake up your Semp club or you all will lose a valuable part of history. Which will be a shame.
Regards,
Arif.

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