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Jul 4, 2016 9:44 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jeff
Hudson, Fla (Zone 9a)
Region: United States of America
Hi everyone !! Hoping you may be able to help me figure out what these are?? Are they seed pods ??
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Jul 4, 2016 10:13 AM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
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Hi Moe! Those definitely are seed pods/horns! Hurray!
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Jul 4, 2016 10:14 AM CST
France
I never seen seed pods for real but I think you are right, I think some more experience users will confirm you.
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Jul 4, 2016 10:23 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jeff
Hudson, Fla (Zone 9a)
Region: United States of America
Wow !! Something new !!!! Now what?? How long until they ripen and how do I go about collecting seeds?? Do Adenium form a caudex and are they true to the parent plant from seed?? I'm sorry for so many questions...
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Jul 4, 2016 10:49 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I can answer your last question, Jeff. No, the plants will never be true to their pod-parent, and as I understand it, they won't be even if the flowers were self-pollinated.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Jul 4, 2016 1:01 PM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
Adeniums Tropicals Morning Glories Container Gardener Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1
Dog Lover Cat Lover Bee Lover Vegetable Grower Butterflies Permaculture
It takes about 75 days for seed pods to ripen. On/about the 65th day it is advisable to bind the seed pods to prevent them from opening because the tufts on the seeds will cause them to drift away with any breezes. Harvest the seeds when the pods are beginning to split and remove the tufts at both ends of each seed. They may be planted immediately or placed in a Ziploc baggie and stored in the refrigerator for several months.

As far as being true to parent, please view this thread: http://garden.org/thread/view_...
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Jul 5, 2016 7:57 AM CST
France
What is the advice temperature for storing the seeds ?
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Jul 5, 2016 8:04 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jeff
Hudson, Fla (Zone 9a)
Region: United States of America
Thank you Kadie and Ken !! Do you know if planting from seed will they form a Caudex? Also how many seeds does a pod/horn produce?
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Jul 5, 2016 8:07 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Jeff, I have never had a bloom yet (all mine are exactly 1 yr. old), so know nothing about the seed-pods. I can tell you that every one of my 18 obesum, grown from seed, have fat caudices.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Jul 5, 2016 9:55 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jeff
Hudson, Fla (Zone 9a)
Region: United States of America
Thank you Ken !! From what i am reading they will form a Caudex !! This aught to be interesting but i surely wont need all of these seeds...
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Jul 5, 2016 10:49 AM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
Adeniums Tropicals Morning Glories Container Gardener Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1
Dog Lover Cat Lover Bee Lover Vegetable Grower Butterflies Permaculture
You're welcome, Jeff. Smiling I don't know what the average number of seeds are per pair of pods. The pair that ripened recently for me contained 60 seeds total.
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Jul 5, 2016 2:27 PM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
Adeniums Tropicals Morning Glories Container Gardener Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1
Dog Lover Cat Lover Bee Lover Vegetable Grower Butterflies Permaculture
Schisma said:What is the advice temperature for storing the seeds ?

I store my seeds in my refrigerator at the middle setting. Really don't know the exact temperature at this setting.
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Jul 6, 2016 5:12 AM CST
France
Does it help seeds to germinate ?
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Jul 6, 2016 11:29 AM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
Adeniums Tropicals Morning Glories Container Gardener Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1
Dog Lover Cat Lover Bee Lover Vegetable Grower Butterflies Permaculture
No, not at all...unlike certain other kinds of plants, adenium seeds do not require a cold period of time to be able to germinate.

In a warm climate atmosphere, the seeds will deteriorate within a few weeks. Cold storage will help keep the seeds fresh and maintain viability for a long time.
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Jul 7, 2016 8:18 AM CST
France
Ok, but I suppose it should not freeze ?
I will move soon on scout camp for 2 weeks then I'd like to preserve seeds as much as possible during these period.
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Jul 8, 2016 12:25 AM CST
Name: Marica
Northern Ca mountains 4000' (Zone 7b)
Hummingbirder
Is someone watching your trees while you away? Or have you moved them to semi shade. I don't know how hot it is getting there. But in my heat I've been watering every other day. My soil is a dry mix, and my trees have buds.
I use to love camp
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Jul 8, 2016 1:08 AM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
Adeniums Tropicals Morning Glories Container Gardener Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1
Dog Lover Cat Lover Bee Lover Vegetable Grower Butterflies Permaculture
@Schisma
No, don't freeze the seeds. If you have a cool cellar where you keep wine, cheese and vegi's, they should be okay there too.

A camping trip! Hurray! Will you be in the forest? Watch out for bears and bobcats! Rolling on the floor laughing (Reference another thread where you discussed these animals.)
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Jul 11, 2016 3:19 AM CST
France
My mother is coming to my home to watch my trees when I am on holiday and I revert the same when they are.
My Adenium are at my office, I don't know if I can ask a colleg to give them water one time during my 2 weeks holidays.
Or maybe I can move them to my flat but they will lose light...

Yes, I will camp in the forest for 2 weeks, we will build a village hung in the forest ! :)
Normally, problem about Bears and bobcats ! Big Grin
There's some bobcats in my region but during holidays, we will be in the south of France,
I know there's some bears in south of France but not in that region. Hurray!
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Jul 14, 2016 9:28 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jeff
Hudson, Fla (Zone 9a)
Region: United States of America
That sounds like fun Schisma !! I used to love camping up in the Woods of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan...So many beautiful places !!
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Jul 14, 2016 11:37 AM CST
Name: Marica
Northern Ca mountains 4000' (Zone 7b)
Hummingbirder
Schisma what rank are you? Or is it different in France? What the heck you may be a leader Smiling Let us know how your mother did. My Grandson did not water enough.

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