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Sep 17, 2016 8:41 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Agreed.

This is one of the 4 monarchs I released today

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I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 17, 2016 8:57 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
I have been so productive this week, it's eerie. Mostly online and over the phone stuff, but I'm rather proud of myself for getting stuff done. Okay, I told the bird thread first this time, but now I'm telling you guys. (Trying to keep it fair.) One thing I did was Mom and I put down a deposit on a trip to Iceland! It will be the first week of August and we will be circumnavigating the island in a really posh ship. It's another trip associated with my alma mater, UPenn. There are more birds than butterflies I think, in Iceland, which is another reason I told the bird thread first. I even went and bought luggage today! Tumi Outlet store - nice stuff.

I'm going to use all my new toys this week on my trip to Silver Springs. It's like a test run. While I'm gone, the caterpillars will go to MOSI, but I think Dad can handle releasing the butterflies. And wouldn't you know that most of those Giant ST eggs hatched? It figures. Well, at least I know MOSI has a large Wild Lime to feed them.

In the meantime, it's still me releasing butterflies. Lately, it's more Black Swallowtails. In fact, I had a male Thursday and a female yesterday and today, so let's compare!

This is the male. Way more yellow. Released before I went to Selby (we'll see those pics in a minute).


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Contrast with the female who has less yellow, more blue. But both have the distinctive black dot inside reddish-orange circle that I call the "bullseye". It is an eyespot, anyway.

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Speaking of that spot, the female I released today had the smallest black spot inside the orange that I have ever seen. I had to do a double-take and look at her real close. Never seen one like this before.

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Now, to catch up! I overheated at Selby so I didn't get to spend as much time there as I normally would. Plus, I was doing favors for two folks. I stopped at the Selby Library (part of Sarasota's Library system and not part of the gardens) to do a lookup for a genealogy friend. Then, my boss at MOSI wanted me to pick up a rare Fanged Pitcher Plant from Selby Gardens. That was actually pretty fun.

In news I know you'll like, I saw plenty of Monarchs at Selby. Not so many caterpillars, although I did see some eggs. Most of their milkweeds were eaten pretty good.

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I saw some Mangrove Skippers flying around but couldn't get pictures of them this time. I even walked by the Mangroves looking for caterpillars but no luck. This little Skipper (Fiery? Whirlabout?) sat for me, though.

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Here's another Monarch on the red porterweed which I do not recommend as it is not native. And porterweed can get a little aggressive.

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I was trying to take a picture of a Polydamas, which is always a futile effort, when Mom started bugging me about what was on the purple porterweed. I looked down, annoyed, and said, "Monk!"

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My one futile picture of a Polydamas.

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Selby has a caterpillar house where they raise the caterpillars and I thought you guys would want to see it. They raise several kinds in there together which I don't recommend, but to each his own.

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The area where I spotted the Mangrove Skippers last year was a patch of Red Pentas. Maybe they are magic? Rolling on the floor laughing But this time all I found was a Spicebush ST.

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So this morning I go out to get some Rue for the lone Black Swallowtail cat. And I see a Pipevine ST sitting on evil, invasive skunk vine that's growing through my Pipevine. I'm trying to figure out if she's laying eggs or basking when she takes off - into the Spanish Moss. I always think it's weird to see butterflies hanging in this stuff. I guess they don't weigh that much, but I can't see it being a good perch. Later, she did decide to start laying eggs, but I had to go inside because it was hot and I was hungry. I did collect eggs today and I'm sure I'll collect more tomorrow.

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In fact, I was holding the Rue and the eggs I gathered in one hand so it was hard to take photos when the Giant ST came flying in. FYI, they seem to like all the colors of Pentas. At least this year. Last year the red really dominated.

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Sep 17, 2016 9:35 PM CST
central Illinois
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Couple of caterpillars we saw on a walk through nature (in a wild state park).
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They both look neat, colorful yet dangerous.
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Sep 17, 2016 9:47 PM CST
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
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I can't remember the correct term for butterfly conventions at Gravel Flats but found an assemblage of Sulphurs today out in the wilds of central Illinois.
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Sep 17, 2016 9:50 PM CST
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
Ignoring Zones altogether
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jmorth said:I can't remember the correct term for butterfly conventions at Gravel Flats but found an assemblage of Sulphurs today out in the wilds of central Illinois.


Puddling.
Seeking Feng Shui with my plants since 1976
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Sep 17, 2016 10:03 PM CST
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
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That's it! Thanks.
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Sep 17, 2016 10:28 PM CST
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Photo Contest Winner: 2017
We went butterfly hunting today,
Pics by my wife.


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ssh...she's better than me!
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Sep 17, 2016 11:44 PM CST
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Photo Contest Winner: 2017
Some of mine today, starting in or near the yard...
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Monarchs in the wild -
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Buckeyes too -
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We went to another known butterfly hangout for these -
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and finally, to our delight
a Swallowtail -
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Sep 18, 2016 7:08 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Yikes J on the tussock & spiny cats! Makes me shudder. Blinking Glad you saw them instead of feeling them.
What a plethora of amazing butterfly photos! Splendid!
Those have to be the prettiest buckeyes I've ever seen. They must be brand spanking new.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 18, 2016 11:00 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
Okay, I think it's time we all party at Jack's house! Rolling on the floor laughing And maybe let your wife take the pics every now and then - she's got skills! Thumbs up

Also, if you want to see the difference between a Monarch and a Viceroy, check out Jack's pics! Viceroy has the curved line through the lower wings.
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Sep 18, 2016 11:24 AM CST
Name: Judy
Mid Atlantic Coastal Plain USA (Zone 7b)
Butterflies
"A collective name for a group of butterflies is called a 'Kaleidoscope'.
However others have called it a 'Swarm' or 'Rabble'. In addition, the collective name for a group of caterpillars is 'an army'."
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Sep 18, 2016 12:24 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
mellielong said:Okay, I think it's time we all party at Jack's house! Rolling on the floor laughing And maybe let your wife take the pics every now and then - she's got skills! Thumbs up

Also, if you want to see the difference between a Monarch and a Viceroy, check out Jack's pics! Viceroy has the curved line through the lower wings.



And the monarchs have 2 rows of white dots on wing edges whereas viceroy only have 1 row.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 18, 2016 12:34 PM CST
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
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Thanks for the corn Mellie!
Descriptive terms Judy.
You too, Ann.
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Sep 18, 2016 12:34 PM CST
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Photo Contest Winner: 2017
I'll need you all to RSVP!
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Sep 18, 2016 1:53 PM CST
Name: Cheryl
Brownstown, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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Quick update post of pics of the Monarchs, then have to run off for gardening today. Can't wait to come back tonight and see everyone's your catches! Green Grin!

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Left to right...A "Vizio" chrysalis getting ready this morning, now eclosed!, another eclosed inside the hamper, and only 6 Hurray! caterpillars to go yet plus the one in a "J" shape inside the hamper on the third photo. One was found wild yesterday at the "waste place" I talked about in multi-pic photo I posted.
"My work is loving the world. Here the sunflowers, there the hummingbird — equal seekers of sweetness. Here the clam deep in the speckled sand. Are my boots old? Is my coat torn? Am I no longer young, and still not half-perfect? Let me keep my mind on what matters, which is my work which is mostly standing still and learning to be astonished." — Mary Oliver, from Messenger
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Sep 18, 2016 2:01 PM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
Bookworm Cat Lover Dog Lover Region: Missouri Native Plants and Wildflowers Roses
Region: United States of America Zinnias Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Some butterfly pics from a few minutes ago.

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Sep 18, 2016 2:29 PM CST
Maryland (Zone 7b)
Passionate about Native Plants
Bee Lover Salvias Native Plants and Wildflowers Hummingbirder Critters Allowed Garden Photography
Butterflies Birds Region: Texas Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Photo Contest Winner 2021
I'm fond of hairstreaks and skippers. Lovey dubby
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Sep 18, 2016 5:09 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
I like Amanda's grayish-purplish Skipper there. Never seen one quite that color! Thumbs up
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Sep 18, 2016 5:43 PM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
Bookworm Cat Lover Dog Lover Region: Missouri Native Plants and Wildflowers Roses
Region: United States of America Zinnias Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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Sep 18, 2016 7:05 PM CST
Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
Hi Everybody!! Let us talk native.
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Amanda, your Sedum is really quite beautiful, no wonder the pollinators are crazy about it. Smiling
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