I'm surprised daffodils are a problem; most have a low zone rating of 3 (Trumpets, large flowering, small flowering, poeticus, split cups). Good drainage I'm assuming. Do you cut the foliage back instead of letting it lay till brown? Plant them at 3 or 4 times the bulb's height?
Some daffodil toughie's might include Mt. Hood, Ice Follies, King Alfred, Bravoure, and Saint Keverne.

Tulips, probably your best returners are the Darwins, ex.> Banja Luka, Giolden Apeldorn. I've heard some of the specie/wild tulips return regularly, Tulip Tarda has for me.

If I think of something else, I'll post again.

Rijnveld's Early Sensation, another tough daffodil. Blooms well even snow covered, if not too deep.

My forced tulips are about 6" in height now. The daffodils and hyacinths have emerged and are developing rapidly. The hyacinths are especially robust.

Mary Stella I too have had the King Alfred and they did well, even after they multiplied considerably. I did learn to leave the foliage until it died back, as much as I hated to, and had much better blooms after that. I added Arkle last year and they came up fine, and added Mt. Hood, Sir Winston Churchill and Rip Van Winkle last Fall so I'll see what happens on those. I had Sir Winston Churchill in my other yard and they did great. I too make sure I plant them deep enough (what jmorth said ). Good luck

Thank you all for great suggestions. I assume I won't be able to get them til this fall but now I will have a reliable list.

I do let the greenery blouse around the garden til it either turns brown (which the crocus do fairly quickly) or until fall. Same with my iris and any of those type plants. I know that they are building up their bulbs.

It is possible I didn't plant them deep enough. I am so afraid of them rotting. I don't have any problem with my peonies, sometimes I overdo the water on my lilies so that could be the same with tulips and daffys. I did grow Rip Van Winkle and Sir Winston Churchill one year then they didn't return.

I don't give mine any extra water and I amend the soil so they have good drainage. Don't know if that is the problem or not.

Summer moisture during the dormant season can be a problem for some bulbs- tulips and hyacinths are particularly sensitive. The more vigorous varieties of daffodils are typically pretty tolerant of summer moisture.

I've always wondered why there are so few white trumpet daffodils on the market. I was told by some local daffodil enthusiasts that whites are particularly sensitive to summer moisture and often succumb to rot. Mount Hood is the exception, and the only white trumpet sold extensively.

The species tulips do well.

Mary Stella,

One place that I get a lot of my bulbs from is K van Bourgondien at DutchBulbs.com. They have a decent selection and their prices aren't too bad, especially with some of their deals. There are also a number of others as well.

I'll try to remember to drop you a note when I start getting my fall catalogs in. That usually starts in July.

Thanks Rick. I also get their catalogs. For some reason I had associated them with being not such a good vendor but that could be for other type plants. I will browse their website also. Couldn't remember their name though I was thinking about them as I read the above recommendations.

They changed the name of their web site last year, which caused a LOT of confusion. I had several go-rounds with them because their IT & Marketing groups apparently weren't talking to each other. Ads were being sent out with invalid E-Mails, etc.

A number of years ago, I got a mix of doubles White Lion and Replete. They've been in the ground long enough that it's time to split them. Fortunately, the area where they are is going to be re-done this year. Otherwise, they're doing great.

Another to consider would be [url="https://BrentAndBeckysBulbs.com/]Brent and Becky's Bulbs[/url] They will be opening up their fall ordering in March, but you can browse now. I got a great deal on hyacinth from them last fall. I'm just hoping that our screwy weather didn't take a toll.

I've had problem with Michigan Bulb over the years. They tend to offer 'new' items that they have changed the name on. (I REALLY wish mail order companies had to include the botanical names).

I buy from Breck's very infrequently as they are too expensive. The same with Color Blends.

Of all those mentioned sites, I'll just stick with Brent and Becky's.

I have heard nothing but good things about Brent and Beckys. Though never ordered from them....yet.

Michigan bulb does change the name, to sell bulbs along with their sister companies like Brecks. With Michigan bulb, open the profile of the plant you are looking at, scroll down farther, and it gives the true botanical name. There are many companies tied together with them, parent company being Gardens Alive. Me personally, i would avoid all companies owned by this conglomerate. Better off asking people on here for their recommendations, and check out the green pages on here. Some places might be a little more pricey, but remember, you usually get what you pay for. Higher bulb price usually means the plant is hardier and was taken better care of. In my opinion anyways.

Brent and Beckys is good and I've had good luck with John Scheepers.

Scheepers is good too. Probably most of my bulb purchases originated with those two companies; although about half of my lilies came from Buggy Crazy.

Buggy Crazy (Lisa Hunt for those that don't know the name) did some amazing work with lilies. Wish she was still able to do her work.

Colorblends, Van Engelen, and the Netherland Bulb Co. are my main sources of bulbs, because I order so many.

CB can be expensive, but they send larger bulbs, and the bulbs for me have always true to name.

Colorblends have a good selection, good size bulbs at a reasonable price.

Brent and Becky's won't ship to Alaska, neither will Dutch Bulbs nor Van Engelen I believe. I placed a spring order with Dutch Bulbs and had it shipped to my transshipping address in Oregon, then they reship to me. Is still cheaper than some direct ships who use FedEx only or UPS. And for companies like those above, at least I can order from them. I wrote down the other suggestions for my fall tulip and daffy order. Thanks

I adore hyacinths but have had zero luck growing them. Might try yet again.

You might actually have better luck with hyacinths by putting them in pots and storing the pots in a cold, dark location for the winter. Almost like forcing them.