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Feb 27, 2017 6:46 PM CST
Name: kathy
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Years ago i was browsing Sams Club and came across Muck boots. They are my all-time favorite ! They are not always available, so when i see them, I'll buy 3 pairs and stow them away. They slip on, are waterproof, and for added comfort I use gel shoe inserts. Thumbs up
I use these boots year round.
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Feb 28, 2017 8:00 AM CST
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Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Good idea about the gel inserts!
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Mar 4, 2017 1:29 PM CST
Name: tfc
North Central TX (Zone 8a)
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@Shadegardener - I'm curious. You said you ended up getting the Muckser II low shoe. I'm thinking that these are ones I saw on Amazon. What I want to know is what the 'low' means. Does it just mean 'not a boot' or does it have to do with the cut of the shoe? Due to steel in my ankles, low cut shoes always seem to rub exactly at the wrong place. (And no, I don't want 'high waters'. Snicker.)
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Mar 4, 2017 4:11 PM CST
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tx - I think it means "not a boot". It is a slip-on and the "upper" does come up high on the bridge of the foot. There is elastic fabric all around the top of the shoe. I couldn't tell you how it would hit your ankles. You could purchase from a vendor on Amazon that has free returns if you wanted to give these a try. I have problems with the areas below the ankle spreading into the arch and to the top of the bridge and these feel fine for me. Sounds like your issues are different though.
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Mar 4, 2017 8:42 PM CST
Name: tfc
North Central TX (Zone 8a)
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I just ordered a shoe not meant for gardening but my current pair is wearing out. And then I'm eyeballing another pair of shoes that definitely are not meant for gardening. This is so unusual because I can't remember a time in my life that I've found more than 1 pair of comfortable shoes. The thought of having 2 pairs is making me salivate. But I do need to buy the mucksters or something similar. What to do, what to do. Guess I'll give Amazon a try.

I just love spellcheck. I noticed that it changed 'mucksters' to 'hucksters' when I wasn't looking.
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Mar 5, 2017 9:08 AM CST
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Name: Cindy
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Don't ya love spellcheck?
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Oct 29, 2017 8:10 PM CST
Name: Dana P
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A little late to the party, but I've just started checking out the Tools and Stuff forum for suggestions on gear, and couldn't help but comment here, even though it's basically solved.

Flip flops were my "go-to" footwear for nearly all gardening during dry weather, until I learned my lesson about wearing a shoe that doesn't have much traction or support for the foot, in 2012! Glare We too live on the highest hill of the street, in the city on 42 feet wide lots, and suffice it to say, I lost my balance in flip flops, while doing heavy work, spun a 180, and fell 8 feet down, head first onto the neighbor's concrete driveway (missing their poured concrete steps by about 12 inches), and wound up with stitches in my brow and a concussion! D'Oh! D'Oh! Glare These days, I'll wear my flip flops, in some instances, but I do have a bad ankle and need support more and more, as I age, so I'll wear tennis shoes, unless I'm mowing the lawn and doing heavy or muddy work, which, for those instances, I bought a pair of gently used Timberlands. They are very supportive, somewhat waterproof, and the traction can't be beat! I too have sport gel inserts in them, bc the footbed is all but cushy, even for women's boots, and my feet and legs don't fatigue nearly as quickly any more! Thumbs up Just my two cents worth! Smiling
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Oct 29, 2017 8:32 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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I just read the post of bloominholes2fill and thought I should update my original post. I finally bit the bullet and bought a pair of Muck boots, the low ankle height ones. That was several months ago and I must say that for me it was a great choice. The soles are much thicker and more durable than the cheap ones I bought at Sam's club. They do provide very good traction. Yes, these are way more expensive, but for me I have found they were actually worth the difference. I don't feel every root and rock now when I am working, and I find these things to be so comfortable, I got lucky and got the perfect fit the first time. I have worn them almost everyday since I purchased them, and for working down in the garden with the bog bed they have saved many a pair of socks. I love going down to the bog bed and knowing my feet are not going to be wet most days ( sometimes I sink in above my ankles). I can't say they would be right for everyone, but compared to wearing old athletic shoes...well there is just no comparison. Also the knock offs at Sam's club did alright, but can't compare to the comfort and support I get with the Muck boots.
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Oct 30, 2017 7:55 AM CST
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Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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After a season of my Mucksters, have to say that they've been very comfortable for me, even after a long day on my feet in the garden. Especially like being able to slip them on and off, unlike old athletic shoes. Falling arch pain has been an issue. And I do like that my socks stay dry.
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Oct 30, 2017 8:21 AM CST
Name: Dana P
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@Seedfork Mucks sure do look like a fabulous boot! I can certainly understand where they are perfect for many a gardener! Especially for your bog area!! Thumbs up Thumbs up There a few concerns, in my particular case, though, because I'm a bit of an anomaly I'm all ears! , 1.) I need to be able to fit an ankle brace, with metal stabilizers, in my left shoe, 2.) I can't have sweaty feet bc of, 3.) I need absolute warmth for extreme cold temperatures (Not that I work in extreme cold temps, by any stretch! Blinking Blinking Thumbs down ), where sock layers just aren't enough. The boot itself must have beyond excellent insulation on the inside of the upper and the foot bed, especially in the toe area, bc I was frost bitten in my teens, and, by the grace of God, still have my toes.

Early on, I had a pair of Columbia Bugaboos, for winter, and they were excellent boots for working in the gardens, as well. Waterproof and a proven sub-zero rating for warmth. The only issue was that they made my feet sweat, in the warm months! Rolling my eyes. I wore them out, though, which is why I've opted for my used Timberlands. The leather is more forgiving for the different positions that one's foot winds up in, when gardening. They passed the temperature test, last Winter, for shoveling snow. No issues with the toes afterward. Thumbs up , and they allow the feet to breathe, in the summer months.

No matter the insulation inside the boot, a rubberized type of upper (and even man-made leather) will get cold, stay cold, and transfer that cold inside the boot, for the duration of being subjected to winter type temperatures. Therefore, even the Mucks that have, what the company advertises as sub-zero warmth ratings won't quite convince me, in particular, that they'll keep my specific toes from frostbite, as long as the boot is subjected to the cold, of which sock layers, can't remedy.

Like I said, Mucks are a great boot for many a gardener, undoubtedly, but a great gardening boot is subjective, I guess, with as many different needs as there are gardeners out there. And a boot that may be warm enough for one individual, may not be remotely warm enough for another, such as myself. I just have to go with what I know works for me, as an anomaly, Whistling Whistling I'm all ears! ....as do we all, Group hug but I figured my original comments might strike a chord, for the more typical gardener, than myself.... nodding I'm all ears! ......which I also need good traction for a hill, stability, wear and tear factor, and water/mud resistance. Group hug Group hug
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Oct 30, 2017 8:48 AM CST
Name: Dana P
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Shadegardener said:After a season of my Mucksters, have to say that they've been very comfortable for me, even after a long day on my feet in the garden. Especially like being able to slip them on and off, unlike old athletic shoes. Falling arch pain has been an issue. And I do like that my socks stay dry.


Cindy, it's good to hear that the Mucks turned out to be a great gardening boot/shoe for you! Thumbs up
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Oct 30, 2017 8:56 AM CST
Name: Dana P
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OOPS!!! Wrong forum! D'Oh! Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 30, 2017 9:04 AM CST
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Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Correction - I should have said that falling arch pain HASN'T been an issue. A relief.
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Oct 30, 2017 9:45 AM CST
Name: Dana P
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Cindy, that's wonderful! I had arch trouble for years, so I hear ya! Blinking Blinking I always thought it was a falling arch, because it would happen when I was wearing a shoe with no arch to speak of, or going barefoot, but I'm not sure now because it doesn't do that any more, in those situations. Confused
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Oct 30, 2017 9:59 AM CST
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Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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I'm a big fan of running shoes but have found that the arches on some are too extreme and had to spend some bucks on shoes with a more moderate arch. I tend to walk on my toes too which causes some problems. The Mucksters let my feet relax a bit more.
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Oct 30, 2017 10:43 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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I was a runner for years and finally had to quit due to arch pain and plantar fasciitis and calf cramps. With the cheap Sam's club knock offs, the problems would sometimes flair up. With the Mucks I have not had those problems and am really surprised but pleased by that.
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Oct 30, 2017 6:32 PM CST
Name: tfc
North Central TX (Zone 8a)
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I never did get the Mucksters or any other gardening shoe. I seem to recall that I spent a lot of time trying to figure out sizing and reading reviews that conflicted with each other re sizing. It's probably time to take another look.
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Oct 30, 2017 6:53 PM CST
Name: Karen
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I was looking at the mucks. Do you go up or down if you're a half size? I didn't see anything that let me know that.
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Oct 30, 2017 8:00 PM CST
Name: tfc
North Central TX (Zone 8a)
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I have no idea. I remember that I looked on Amazon and at the Muckster's website and was totally confused. Maybe with the half size you'll have to switch to men's sizes. I'm not joking. One site said that women should use the men's sizes. Thus I finally gave up.
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Oct 30, 2017 9:07 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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