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Nov 17, 2011 12:46 PM CST
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I think water is mostly overlooked for keeping plants at their top shape. Most cities use chlorine and chloramines to water to kill bacteria and fungus. This stuff also kills your plants. Aged water helps with the chlorine but not the new chloramines some are now using. I read about potting soil mixes for different plants, light demands, air temperatures but nobody talks about water. Any fast draining soil mix can support plant health as long as the main ingredient 'Water' is considered. Warm (not hot) water that's been aged for a week or so is great, but using old fish tank water (If you have tropical fish) is probably the best. In the summer months I use a 32 gallon garbage can with holes in bottom sitting on top of it's lid. inside of the can I collect my grass clippings, leaves and other plant scraps (weeds) into this. When it rains the water filters thru and collects in bottom lid tray. This I pour into a watering can and use for all my plants. It's called compost tea. Also I pour fresh water on the top and collect at the bottom when there's no rain. Works great.
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Dec 4, 2011 6:05 PM CST
Name: Angie Singson Boucher
Ottawa City Ontario Canada (Zone 5a)
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Thanks for the tip. I will clean my fish tank and use the water to water my plants.

Also note that over watering is no. 1 killer of houseplant, aside from low houselight.
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Dec 5, 2011 9:51 AM CST
Name: Alan
Chandler, AZ; 85225 (Zone 9b)
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Stush2019 said:I think water is mostly overlooked for keeping plants at their top shape. Most cities use chlorine and chloramines to water to kill bacteria and fungus. This stuff also kills your plants. Aged water helps with the chlorine but not the new chloramines some are now using. I read about potting soil mixes for different plants, light demands, air temperatures but nobody talks about water. Any fast draining soil mix can support plant health as long as the main ingredient 'Water' is considered. Warm (not hot) water that's been aged for a week or so is great, but using old fish tank water (If you have tropical fish) is probably the best. In the summer months I use a 32 gallon garbage can with holes in bottom sitting on top of it's lid. inside of the can I collect my grass clippings, leaves and other plant scraps (weeds) into this. When it rains the water filters thru and collects in bottom lid tray. This I pour into a watering can and use for all my plants. It's called compost tea. Also I pour fresh water on the top and collect at the bottom when there's no rain. Works great.


Slush, would love to see a picture of that setup, please Smiling
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Dec 5, 2011 5:11 PM CST
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Name: 'CareBear'

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Thanks, I was beginning to think nobody takes there water seriously. Fish tank water is the best for all plants but the compost tea should only be used outdoors. It smells. Same could be said of the stuff from gardens alive. I'll post a picture and explain further on my compost tea maker in the spring when I set it up again.
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Dec 5, 2011 8:37 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
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LOL- Alan kinda *has* to take his water seriously.
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Dec 6, 2011 6:50 AM CST
Name: Alan
Chandler, AZ; 85225 (Zone 9b)
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Boy...isn't that the truth!! Thumbs up
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Dec 6, 2011 9:53 AM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
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I speak not with fork-ed tongue.... lol.
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Dec 6, 2011 8:19 PM CST
Name: Cinda
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I have used fish tank water for years and totally agree it is the most natural and best . You don't have to wait till you clean the tank just dip and replace the water . It is also good for the fish to have fresh water. Of course I have well water so it is easy to ''just replace'', the tank water.
Collecting rain water is a great idea too.
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Dec 6, 2011 8:26 PM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
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I agree I also use water out of the aquarium. It saves having to do the 1/3rd change every few months because I'm constantly dipping out of it for plants...although, with 150+ house plants I make a pretty good dent in it every week Rolling on the floor laughing . Also have well water so re-filling is no problem here either.
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Dec 7, 2011 3:05 PM CST
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Cinda,
The picture you post is what?? You may have the very best fertilizer know to plants. Did you know that alfalfa is a super plant hormone? What eats alfalfa poops out most of the hormone. Makes it just great for plants.
A hosta grower once told me a secret. He used alfalfa meal 50/50 mix then planted his hosta on top. He said it gave him 2 years growth in one year. I told him not to tell me secrets no more, that I have a big mouth. I did this myself and saw remarkable growth but I worried that moles or mice might dig in to get to the alfalfa meal. Rabbit manure removes this worry. Don't know anyone with rabbits do you?? Horse manure has too much other stuff besides alfalfa meal in it. But after properly composted for a year or so is great also.
Just through I mention this.
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Dec 7, 2011 7:05 PM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
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Keeps Goats Forum moderator Frogs and Toads Tip Photographer Keeper of Poultry I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
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Cinda's creature is a Chinchilla Lovey dubby

I know a guy who has rabbits and I gather the stuff every time he cleans them and put it straight into the gardens. The gardens love it!!
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Dec 7, 2011 7:07 PM CST
Name: Cinda
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My avatar is Phoebe , she is a chinchilla , and yes she eats mostly pellets like a rabbit. I use her leavings in my houseplants instead of chemical fertilizer.
For the outside gardens I use the goat (nannyberries) Smiling
No lack of natural fertilizer here I also have a horse
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Dec 7, 2011 7:18 PM CST
Name: Cinda
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*Blush* Cross posted
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Dec 7, 2011 7:22 PM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
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Keeps Goats Forum moderator Frogs and Toads Tip Photographer Keeper of Poultry I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
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Dec 7, 2011 7:58 PM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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Rolling my eyes. how about early spring?
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Dec 7, 2011 8:01 PM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
Perpetually happy!
Keeps Goats Forum moderator Frogs and Toads Tip Photographer Keeper of Poultry I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
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Dec 7, 2011 8:31 PM CST
Name: Renée
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"nannyberries" Rolling on the floor laughing
I use aquarium water sometimes, and sometimes I use the drops that are supposed to remove chlorine/chloramines from water in my tap water.
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Dec 7, 2011 8:35 PM CST
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Name: 'CareBear'

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Cinda,
I am so jealous of you. You lucky Girl. How I wish I had the room and space to do what you do.
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Dec 7, 2011 8:44 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Charter ATP Member Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
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Trust me, being chief poop-scooper has it's downsides, too. I also have horses, but I skip the middle step in the gardens and soak alfalfa cubes and add them to new plantings. Too many... uh.... mare-y berries....
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Dec 9, 2011 3:50 PM CST
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Name: 'CareBear'

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Sheryl,
I feel your pain. Nice to wish and another to do. In my childhood I too was chief pooper-scooper every time I visit my uncle's farm. He had 2 cows. I always took home a bag of old composted manure with me. Memories are better than reality. We would fill a old dog food bag called 'Chunks of Joy'. After my mother would always laugh at the thought.
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