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Oct 31, 2016 4:35 PM CST
Name: Ginny G
Central Iowa (Zone 5a)
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We have LOTS of clay at our house. Every time I plant I have to amend the soil. Just started a new veggie garden for next Spring and I tilled under the sod (what was there anyway) and waited several weeks before I added 10 bags of composted manure this weekend and I tilled that in pretty good with my little Mantis tiller. I also found garden soil compost with worm casings and I intend to put that on in the Spring and till it in again before planting. If anyone has any other ideas as to what I need to do let me know Thumbs up Thumbs up I'm up for suggestions. I had a large garden years back but I didn't do the preparation and planting, just the harvesting and canning and freezing.
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Oct 31, 2016 4:58 PM CST
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
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Lots of clay here also with old gas filled sat sea bed underneath does not drain , fills up and water stands ,, swamp thing ,,
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Oct 31, 2016 5:56 PM CST
Name: Mac
Still here (Zone 6a)
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Cindy, we’ve seen the Back to Eden stuff and a lot more. If nothing else it should cut down on the weeding. We’ll do a follow up next year.

Dave, we have a lot of worms, especially night crawlers. And they do help. But even with the tilling we were doing previously, the soil holds very little moisture. We use a soaker hose system to supplement our erratic rainfall.

Susan, yea, we have a major run off issue. Our land slopes to the creek across the back, but probably less than 3 feet.

Ginny, we dump several trailer (8’ by 18’) loads of straw and cow manure mix on our garden, in the Fall and turn it under in the Spring. it helps to some extent but the surface still turns to concrete consistency after several days of sun. I’ve got a 4’ tractor-driven tiller and make several passes to loosen the soil.

We just contacted a local family that has horses. We’ll be getting all the horse manure we can handle. Our plan is to put down a layer over the wood chip, cover it with more chip, and let it stand over Winter to decompose. We’ll compost some of it for a soil amendment in the early Spring. We also have composted kitchen and garden green-waste to plant in.

The trellises will go back up in early Spring.
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Oct 31, 2016 6:07 PM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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I started the no till method last year or the year before and if nothing else it helps with the weeds. I do a thick layer of mulch on top of newspaper, then compost then mulch again. It does break down and help with the soil. The upper part of my veggie garden hasn't seen much improvement but since I live on a hill it's probably to be expected that the lower part would be better. I love the fact that I now don't have to worry much about weeds, just a few pieces here and there but otherwise the soil is slowly improving with a lot less work on my part.
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Oct 31, 2016 6:31 PM CST
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Amanda, I put layers of cardboard down in my raised lily bed. Hardly had an issue with weeds. It was so nice. And it actually broke down really fast. Faster than I thought it would.

In case anyone is new to raised beds, this is what I did. I built my bed out of Cedar boards. I used 12 foot long boards. Where boards butted up to eachother, I used a 4X4 in the corners, on seams, I also put a board to join front side to the back side.

Once the frame was built, I cut cardboard to fit the same size as my frame. That way there was no green grass or anything visible on the inside. I also used clean cardboard. No tape, glue or stickers. After that I just filled with the soil I wanted to use and planted the bulbs.

Depending on the depth you need to plant your bulbs or tubers, you can either build a taller frame or cut a hole in the cardboard, but then you chance grass and weeds coming through.
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Oct 31, 2016 6:33 PM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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I started out with cardboard then a copperhead decided he liked the cardboard so I switched to newspaper. I'm not making a home for the snakes when there's plenty of field around for them. Hilarious!
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Oct 31, 2016 7:44 PM CST
Name: Ginny G
Central Iowa (Zone 5a)
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These are some really good ideas. I haven't used a raised bed but do use cardboard then top with mulch on new areas.
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Oct 31, 2016 7:54 PM CST
Name: Dave
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There were a couple reasons I did a raised bed. Where I put it, I assumed the were lines, whether cable, electric, or whatever buried underground. So that being the case, I didn't want to till. Turned out I was right. Also then you can make sure it's good soil, not clay or bad soil.
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My bed is a foot off my property line.
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Oct 31, 2016 7:55 PM CST
Name: Ginny G
Central Iowa (Zone 5a)
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Oct 31, 2016 8:37 PM CST
Name: Mac
Still here (Zone 6a)
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Amanda, this past Spring, after tilling the garden plot, we mulched a roughly 20’ by 30’ section with a rather shallow 4-5 inch layer of fine dark wood mulch. A fair amount of weeds and grass sprouted through that thin layer since we didn’t put a barrier layer underneath. I made a point of pulling all the sprouting stuff every few days to keep it under control. Toward the end of the season there were very few new weeds coming up. After all the plants were removed, I tilled the un-mulched portion of the garden and covered the entire area with a more coarse layer of chips from a couple local arborists, directly on top of the tilled area (previous picture). The only weeds that have sprouted are rooted in the mulch and not the underlying soil. We’re hoping that a covering layer of horse manure and more chips will speed the breakdown of the chips between now and planting season next year.

Dave, I built our existing planter boxes 5 or 6 years ago. I covered the bottom in 1/2” mesh hardware cloth to keep the moles out. I didn’t put any paper or cardboard underneath but weeds haven’t been a problem. The boxes are about 15” deep and filled to within an inch or so of the top. We grow peppers, tomatoes, and beets, carrots, lettuce and such in the boxes.

Amanda, no copperheads here. We have a few garter snakes and the occasional black snake. They’re usually living in the firewood ricks.

This is a portion of our garden in 2014. Pole beans on wooden trellis, planter boxes behind. I put wooden uprights on the ends of the planter boxes, drilled every foot to accept 1/2” metal conduit, to support the tomato and pepper plants. We picked 2-3 colander’s full of pole beans almost every day. Mrs canned 100 qts. of tomatoes off of 8 plants that year.


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Oct 31, 2016 9:29 PM CST
Name: Gene Staver
Portage WI 53901 (Zone 5a)
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Gee, I wish I had some clay. Here it is sand with some humus in it. I have accidently left the hose run all night and not a puddle in the morning when I stopped it. One positive - no gutters on my house. Gene
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Oct 31, 2016 10:01 PM CST
Name: Mac
Still here (Zone 6a)
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Gene, I'll trade you clay for sand. I can pour a gallon of water on my yard and it's still there the next day.
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Nov 1, 2016 4:16 AM CST
Name: Sally
Nichols, iowa (Zone 5a)
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62°/73°/58°
Patchy fog before 7 am. Mostly sunny. SW wind around 5 mph.

Jeanne,
I cut mine back in August. Most have grown bac healthy new foliage and that I will leave over winter.

Cindy,
Twice I've done the Arbor trees and not a one survived.

Ginny,
That is hilarious!! Bless his heart tho.

Susan,
Never agaain will I do major clean-up in spring, lol! The stems are soft and don't cut well. It's ahuge mess and I have other things that need doing.

Mac,
Nice looking garden! That is a thck layer of chips!

Jim,
Use the swamp to your advantage and fill it with cardinal flowers!

It was nice yesterday so I weeded. The ground is wet and I still had to take the Hori knife out to dig things out. All the beds need weeding, but I started in the rose bed. I dug out plants that have sowed with wild abandon. I made some empty spots. I've got everything else cut back now.
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Nov 1, 2016 9:14 AM CST
Name: Susan
Torrington, Alberta, Canada (Zone 3a)
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Sally - it's patchy fog here, too - but at least it's not the thick soup it was the other day! It's supposed to get warmer & sunnier this week, to 45F / 15c - woooo hooooooooo!!
Today, it's zero, which matches your 32F brrrrrr Our helper's ride has to go to work, so he's going to renew his driver's licence and might be here this afternoon

We had about 25 wee ones here last night - looked so adorable in their costumes Thumbs up Whistling Hurray!
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Nov 1, 2016 9:28 AM CST
Name: Mac
Still here (Zone 6a)
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What happened to Fall? It's supposed to be 84 today, 79 tomorrow.
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Nov 1, 2016 9:30 AM CST
Name: Susan
Torrington, Alberta, Canada (Zone 3a)
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In a 6B zone, isn't that pretty much normal temp, Mac? Confused
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Nov 1, 2016 10:06 AM CST
Name: Gene Staver
Portage WI 53901 (Zone 5a)
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I have lived here for 13 years now. Kind of the boonies. I have never had a trick or treater. Am enjoying this long, warm Fall so much !! Gene
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Nov 1, 2016 10:08 AM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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Not normal here. Way too hot!! I feel like I should put my winter clothes back into their totes and bring back out the summer clothes. Humidity isn't high thankfully but we should be worried about snow instead of heat.
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Nov 1, 2016 10:09 AM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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71 already. I don't mind warmer temps but this is a bit much.

No trick or treaters here either. Nice and quiet night. Hilarious!
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Nov 1, 2016 10:11 AM CST
Name: Ginny G
Central Iowa (Zone 5a)
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I had a daylily bloom this morning - on November 1!!!
Going Bananas - Crazy weather!!
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