Plumeria forum: Splash Colors

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Name: Pinky Kelly R
Long Beach, CA (Zone 10a)
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Pinky
Feb 18, 2012 6:58 AM CST
Hi Hetty! Can you comment on http://www.ebay.com/itm/PLUMERIA-RUBRA-FRANGIPANI-FLOWERS-TH...

I think in our PA group I heard someone talk about this type of plant being the result of a virus. Not sure.

Also, none of the Thai sources state if there is fragrance. Is there a source document for Thai plummies? Lovey dubby
Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Feb 18, 2012 7:16 AM CST

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YES on the Virus. Stay away from these flowers.

There are a zillion Thai sellers that spring up and disappear just as rapidly. Aside from a few trusted sources you will not know what you will get from them. They can post a picture of anything, and the stick you'll receive won't bloom for another year or so, by which time they have disappeared, or sprung up under a different name....so you'll have no recourse.

Caveat emptor!
Name: Pinky Kelly R
Long Beach, CA (Zone 10a)
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Pinky
Feb 18, 2012 2:53 PM CST
This person is a top rated seller, being one myself I know how hard it is to maintain that status. So far I have had great luck with my Thai sources. I was really disappointed with my Oahu source when I bought half a pod of mardi gras. I actually quit buying from Matt because of the quality going down with each subsequent purchase. Your plumeria cuttings were A++++++.

I can't say I would buy cuttings from Thailand. The trip is too tramatic for them. Besides, we have great growers like you in our PA group.

My question was regarding the splash being a virus or some thing. I think someone told Nikki to take a splash one out of the calendar but I am not sure the details. do you recall?
Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Feb 18, 2012 7:24 PM CST

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It was Luc from Florida Colors who asked Nikki to remove that picture. As a long-time grower he is aware of the things viruses can do to plants so he is meticulous about keeping it out of his nursery. Some people are more relaxed about it.

I agree with you on the trip from Thailand being traumatic; I have done the importing thing only once, and decided I'd rather pay the premium to let someone else go through that hassle!

And thank you very much for your endorsement of my cuttings! *Blush*
Name: Michael Hicks
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chefmike92
Feb 18, 2012 8:14 PM CST
I agree I agree I agree

she likes to let me take risks Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

i agree i would never buy cuttings off eBay i dont know photo shop but i can make some great looking flowers Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

i sell on eBay and every now and then ill buy something but i had to laugh i saw a lady had power seller rating 99.9% and like 3000 sales or something and sh actually had this pic on there to sell seeds for a rainbow rose it was something else to see. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

Name: Pinky Kelly R
Long Beach, CA (Zone 10a)
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Pinky
Feb 19, 2012 9:03 AM CST
So far I have had good luck. For me it's the fun of growing a seed. I really don't have room so I need to get with the local authorities to see how I can ship some of this to my mom in Florida. Everything seems to grow great in her yard! I am looking forward to my first plumeria society meeting in March. I hope to meet lots of folks who have more experience. I really want to keep as many of my plummies in pots that I can. I need to start focusing on the dwarfs. I have watermelon on my have to have list for now. My dwarf seeds have sprouted and they look different than the normal plummie seeds. Two folks who grow dwarfs from seeds told me there is a really high chance they will remain dwarfs.
Name: Michael Hicks
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chefmike92
Feb 19, 2012 11:11 AM CST
great to hear i NO dwarfs and not seen any other then a few sights. i bet you will have a great time and get great advice at the meeting. all mine stay in pots at this time to many freeze/frost where im at. i might have to change that when my newest to my collection get big?? i just hate trying to cover due to most the time with the long freeze temps i get wind that uncover everything i lost a lot of things over the year because i have built frames around things and covered and put lights in to keep warm but i dont have time to do all that every year wheww.i find shipping is relatively easy i do a lot and from my experience i ship bare root with 90 % of leaves cut off. some plants if yng & tender i wrap the roots with damp paper. if they are dorm it they are much easier to ship

take care and good luck

mike.
Name: Sandi
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Bubbles
Feb 21, 2012 10:35 AM CST
Here's one I had for a couple of seasons. I posted it one day and asked if it could be a virus. It was confirmed and I got rid of it.
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Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Feb 21, 2012 1:49 PM CST

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Good for you, Sandi.
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mandala
Feb 22, 2012 1:17 PM CST
Hetty, what do you mean by a virus? And why do you have to get rid of it? I am new to plumeria and curious to learn about this virus thing. Thank you.
The obstacle is the path. ~ Zen Proverb
Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Feb 22, 2012 1:45 PM CST

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The color splashes in the plant shown in the first post are caused by a virus. It is sometimes referred to as a 'color break' but it is a relative of the tobacco mosaic virus which will weaken and eventually kill the plant. It can also easily be transferred from plant to plant, so a serious collector who values their plants will get rid of a diseased one.
Name: Michael Hicks
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chefmike92
Feb 22, 2012 2:13 PM CST
I agree but never new that and i find it kinda funny i have seen these cutting on sale on ebay as a great new plant and i do like the way the flower looks BUT no disease here i could loose so much thats for sure.

you know that is a big reason its great to get from reliable sources or great collectors that know about these things so you dont en up with something you dont want to that could wipe you totally out

Hetty thats why I am so glad you are up on most everything to do with plumeria's


mike
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Feb 22, 2012 2:14 PM CST

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I tip my hat to you. Smiling
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mandala
Feb 22, 2012 2:42 PM CST
Thanks, Hetty. Smiling
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Name: Jonna
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extranjera
Feb 22, 2012 3:27 PM CST
I am glad to learn this too. I would not have known and if I'd seen one with that kind of marbling color I would have wanted it. Thanks from all of us Hetty.
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Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Feb 22, 2012 4:10 PM CST

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There are a few naturally occurring variations in the colors.
The rule is that if the color 'breaks' appear on every petal on every flower, it is a natural thing. If you suddenly have two or three blooms displaying the 'splashes' it is usually a bad thing. Exception to this is white patches that can appear for other reasons.

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