I now have 3 ~ 3 ' tall ** and > 40 seedlings of 7 varieties ~ 3 - 6 inches tall. Don't ask, I have no freaking idea.

My oldest from 2014 over wintered in my living room near an East window.

My new ones purchased in Fall 2015 were a rooted and unrooting cutting from Dr. Dawg. I kept them in my basement grow area and they are doing fine. All are out for past week or so on my screen porch getting screened light to harden them off.

You're growing a forest there David!

Rewind....the unrooted cutting was not fine. It rotted a bit so I cut off all the bad and am starting again. It was a bit wrinkled, but looked good on the end and appeared to be making claws. I pulled it out of the prlite and OMG.

So I guess I am now on my 2nd attempt. My other two definitely look fine.

Sorry to hear that David, hopefully with much warmer weather, your cutting will be on the mend.

Just an update on my other noid Plumie: still taking its sweet time, since we fell back into cooler temps this past week.
It will be the start of the low 80's today, so just documenting first how it looks like for future growth comparison:

A nice mantid nymph came by my noid Plumie

Looks like you will have a bloom soon Tarev.

I hope so!!! Fingers crossed!!! Our temps are topsy turvy!!! Back to cool zone after two days of heat...

I just read this entire thread....Very interesting....You take fantastic photo's tarev...Loved the reading !!

Thanks Jeff! That's my ongoing Plumeria odyssey

Just a June update, trying to find something good with the ongoing heat wave..my Plumies enjoying it!

Glad noid yellow was able to push the leaves so I can liberally water it: it seems a latent bud will manage to bloom soon..hope it does!



Plumie Celadine is doing so good, all branches with leaves, basking nicely under the heat!



Triple digit temps season is here!

Looking good, Tarev.

After having two dozen cuttings sitting in two, 5 gal. buckets of perlite since last fall, eight of them rooted sometime in the last 7-10 days. I last checked all these cuttings last week and not a root was found. These eight have been put into 1 gal. pots and are in partial shade. Not a single one has a "true" leaf....................none. So the rule of thumb that you won't see rooting until you see leafing out is false. I already knew that since I have had this same thing happen many times over the years. Anyway, I am down to 16 cuttings and they are all in a single bucket.

I don't know what you mean Ken, you just said no roots and no true leaf on any single one..so what makes the rule of thumb wrong? Are you just saying they are clawing..yes they will claw..but there will be no roots yet. That is how I understand it, and have seen it here in my other previous attempts. But you got better humidity conditions than we do here, so it may also be a factor why it does not root well here initially.

Anyways, I am happy with my two plumies, they are both behaving well this time around woohoo!

Those inflos were started before the cutting were taken. I'm possibly wrong, but I'm guessing that serious growers would cut them off to direct the energy to roots. Maybe one of the more expert growers will chime in.

I did not say "no roots". I said all eight rooted and none had a single "true" leaf. We sure do have plenty of humidity but that seems to be no factor. We have high humidity al year long. If humidity were a factor, these cuttings would have rooted over the fall and winter months. None did.

Humidity is just one of the factors to consider...we can have humid conditions here, but temps may be cold since we only get that around winter, so still not the ideal rooting time for Plumies. This year's Spring had a rather long period of cool down, humidity was better but temps were just too cool for them

This week has finally started to be particularly warm to heat wave conditions for us here. Practically the same period my noid Plumie finally started to push newer leaves. It has been on clawing stage for most of Spring. You may have not given your cuttings enough time to push the new leaves. To categorically say the rule of thumb is false, is such a generalization, some newbies may make the mistake of giving watering when it should not be done yet.

And you did say there was not a root found last week. The roots you found in the last 7 days, were they long enough already? You should have taken a photo for analysis of the condition of newly formed roots.

Anyways, such is the differences in growing Plumies..there will always be a challenge somehow..I am just glad mine are growing well now! Yey!

ctcarol said:Those inflos were started before the cutting were taken. I'm possibly wrong, but I'm guessing that serious growers would cut them off to direct the energy to roots. Maybe one of the more expert growers will chime in.

Hi Carol, my little noid Plumie has been here since Jul 2013, so no longer a cutting it did make little cute blooms last year too But I do understand what you meant, I would do that if it is a really new unrooted cutting, I would certainly cut the inflo so it can concentrate on making new roots.

I kept my NOID plumie in my living room and it dropped about half its leaves. On my screen porch and releafing nicely.

Rooted Celadine I bought from Ken last Fall is popping a leaf! Yay. My Vera Cruz (also from Ken - unrooted) rotted so I had to recut it. Doanno exactly how that happened as I had only given it about an ounce of water in 6 months. Oh well - it looks now to be clawing and I have been misting it every other day. Once I see a real leaf, I will start watering it.

Tarev - glad to hear that yours appear to be doing great!

A nice update this time! I got a nice bloom from my noid little Plumie and good leaf growth too woohoo! A real slow start this year and prolonged cool Spring temps followed by our early June week- long dry heat wave was just crazy! But I am a happy camper now, noid Plumie made it! I am glad I can still keep it in its little container, will see how long it will be okay with that, knowing Plumies are really big trees.

June 8 - 9, 2016


June 10, 2016


The bloom was facing east, moving it a bit just to get a better shot, I really like the pinwheel stage, when the petals are still swirling:


And returning it once more to its favored position. The leaves also protects the blooms somehow from the windy gusts we are getting these past couple of days.