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Mar 9, 2013 6:42 PM CST
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Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Mar 10, 2013 7:22 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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Beautiful day today, in the 70s,. but breezy. I weeded the raspberries so hubby could mulch (he did). Cut back a 50' row each of mums and yarrow, cut back horehound, then raked the first two rows after rototilling the winter cover crop three times. I got the rows marked and two flats of lettuce planted and just couldn't go on. I'm exhausted. I wanted to finish the row tomorrow but we're supposed to get severe thunderstorms tomorrow night so I may wait until Tues.

Oh, I learned how to milk the goat for when my son is out of town. fun...
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Mar 13, 2013 1:38 PM CST
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Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2016
I have my pea seeds but because of the weather turning colder again, I will not be planting them this week or over the weekend. Will wait and see how the weather is at the begining of next week.
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Mar 13, 2013 2:15 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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I got my pre-sprouted peas planted and all the lettuce but no new peas yet. Very WINDY and cold here. Maybe next week.
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Mar 20, 2013 11:33 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2016
First day of spring acording to the calander but it is still winter weather outside. I have not been able to plant my peas yet. It is simply too cold for them.
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Mar 20, 2013 1:09 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2016
I just ordered some hairy vetch and crimson clover seeds. Got them from Peaceful Vally Farm Supply where I buy all my cover crop seeds. I grow both the vetch and clover because I think they are so pretty so I find a spot at the edges of the garden here or there to plant them.
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Mar 20, 2013 4:10 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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Rita, you'll grow them this summer? We plant them in the fall, but we are using for green manure so it probably doesn't matter if you are just growing for looks. The crimson clover is BEAUTIFUL and the bees love it! Last spring we had the best honey ever!

I think I would grow it just for looks if we weren't growing it otherwise. Thumbs up
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Mar 20, 2013 4:14 PM CST
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Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2016
I forgot to put them in the fall or rather I did try but my seed was too old and not much came up. I ordered new seed and will just grow them for looks this spring. I love the flowers.
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Mar 20, 2013 4:17 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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And it may reseed so you could have it overwinter this year!
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Mar 20, 2013 4:24 PM CST
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Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2016
I am thinking that if I just keep reseeding them they might just come up (new plants) all season long. I do love Crimson clover. To me it is pretty enough to be in a flower bed, love it!
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Mar 20, 2013 4:26 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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The clover likes the cool weather though so I'm not sure how it will withstand the summer heat. YES! I love the crimson clover flower as well. the first time I saw it was in the background of a photo my son had taken of his garden. He's been using it for building the soil for years now. This GA red clay is very hard to deal with!
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Mar 20, 2013 4:30 PM CST
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Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
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Well, I can skip the hottest part of the summer then.
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Mar 20, 2013 4:34 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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I don't know about vetch? Will it die back in the heat as well? It would probably only be a short period of no clover.
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Mar 20, 2013 4:50 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2016
Yes, another one that only likes the cooler weather. But I think it is so pretty wuth those tiny purple flowers. I even really like the vines with the airy fine leaves.
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Mar 21, 2013 12:42 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2016
I was outside today starting on the garden chores. I cleaned out both of my 35 gallon ponds which fill wuth leaves over the winter.

Then I wanted to make the trench to plant my spring peas. I moved off the leaf mulch, made the trench about an inch deep. I was just planning on doing that much and leaving the planting till a warmer day but I decided the heck with leaving the trench now that I had it and so I planted the peas. This is basicly an experiment as I usually plant them in April. So if they don't grow I will replant them. But I still have all the pots to plant that I use for growing peas and also another garden in ground place to plant them but will wait a bit. So only the first of the peas are planted.
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Mar 22, 2013 8:27 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2016
I bought more pea seeds. I found a very interesting and new to me type of pea called 'Sugar Lace II' Snap Peas. I got a great deal on them buying them at Amazon. Got an entire pound of them. I still have pea Cascadia seeds here to plant, already planted some Super Sugar Snap. So in case I have too many it would be no problem as I plant a second crop of peas in the fall. In fact those Cascadia seeds are left over from last fall.
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Mar 22, 2013 8:37 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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Rita, until this year I always thought the ground was too warm to plant peas for fall. It was too late for me this fall, but I am going to do them this year.

I have never heard of Sugar Lace II or Cascadia. I have the best luck with Dwarf Grey and I like them because they're good eating pods and the peas so if I don't get them picked, no worries! Just wait and let the peas get big. Are all of your's the pod eating kind?

Do you trellis them?

Also, I have always grown cauliflower in spring and never had much luck so I quit growing it. This year someone told me to plant it in the fall so I did. BEST cauliflower I ever had, and I guess it's been so long I didn't even know they wrap their own heads now! Hilarious!

I really want to get more peas in this weekend also but we're supposed to get rain! I would plant in the rain but I think it's going to be cold as well and I'm not up to that. We'll see.
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Mar 22, 2013 8:49 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2016
I grow my Sugar Snap and Super Sugar Snap on bamboo teepee like things. I am sure I will do the same with these. They are Sugar Snap peas.

Last spring and fall both I grew sugar snap peas, snow peas and afew plain old shelling garden peas. I love peas.

The thing with fall peas is to get the timing right. They will germinate jist fine if it is hot but as you know they will not set and will just shrivel up and die. So you need to get them going while still having plenty of time for the actual peas to mature. Last year I put in my fall peas from July 21-23 but I don't know when the correct time would be for your area.

I have never grown cauliflower.
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Mar 22, 2013 8:56 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
Greenhouse Region: Georgia Garden Sages Organic Gardener Beekeeper Vegetable Grower
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I love peas too! I always have a hard time remembering the difference between sugar snaps and snow peas, I thought they were the same but someone explained to me the difference. I think I have already forgotten. But I love the English peas too (shelling, garden). My son thinks they're a waste of time because the take so much effort to shell for so few peas but he likes to grow soybeans. They are really a pain to pick and shell!

If you like cauliflower, you should try one or two. I have Denali from Johnny's Select Seeds. I was very happy with it. I am growing Snow Crown this spring, the standard for spring cauliflower even though I have never had any luck with it. We'll see...

If you want to try the cauliflower I have extra Denali I could send you a couple. You would probably start the same as your peas for your area, mid June. I'd have to look it up though.
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Mar 23, 2013 10:00 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2016
Thank you for the offer, that is very kind but I am not found enough of cauliflower to grow it. That is I don't even buy it that often in the store. I do grow my own brocoli, can't remember the name of the type of seeds I have right now.

Snow peas are eaten when they have flat shells and no peas yet growning inside. They are the type of peas you get in chinese cooking. Eatten for the pods only. Sugar Snap peas you eat the pods and young peas and garden peas you shell and eat only the peas, not the pods. I did like the Snow peas but my favorite was still the Sugar Snap peas. Yumm, yum. I can just keep on eating them.

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