Toni: They'll leaf out soon. If my first order from Palatine, delivered in November, 2008, leafed out and made it through the winter, I'm sure you'll soon see leaf activity on your new babies!

That Sunrise is gorgeous. Fragrance?

There is a slight fragrance, here are all the stats: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose...
I posted my most recent shot of it in my parade thread.

That's the photo I remember. That's what pushed it onto my list.

Not sure whether I can do fall shipment. I think I'd need to receive plants first week of September at the latest to give them a few weeks to prepare for hard frosts in October. We get loverly sunny 75F days through October, much of November and into December, but nights produce hard frosts as early as October, and the plants need to be ready for the yo-yo weather (if that's possible).
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Toni, my roses (bands and gallons) from VG all arrived with lovely green leaves. The chilly night air pushed them backward a bit and they are only now starting to recover. I have some bare root roses from Edmunds that I planted in mid March and David Austin Roses planted in early April that are still waiting for nights to be warm enough to set any leaves. And I have some from Edmunds and DA that have strong growth going. Folklore, for instance put out a foot long, 1/4 inch cane very quickly. So as always, there's a lot of interaction between the plants and the environment.

One of the truly interesting things (IMO) about growing roses (and anything else) is observing how those interactions work. I am absolutely certain that there are roses that Zuzu and Sue can grow that I will never be able to grow here. I expect that there might be a few roses I can grow that they will have trouble with. I would bet that there are a few roses (or perhaps other plants) that you will be able to grow in CO that Sue, Zuzu, or I could not grow nearly as well. It may take some time to discover which those are, but there will certainly be some satisfaction in the success.

I derived a great deal more pleasure from gardening when I learned not to invest too much hope in plants that would probably not do well, or for that matter, ones that probably should. (On the other hand the most accomplished gardeners tend to be the ones who insist on growing orchids across the floor of the arctic tundra...)

So I bet your Pickerings will be great. Don't forget the fish heads.

Steve - I bet you anything that I can kill roses or any other plants much faster than you or anyone else on this board. C'mon, I'm up for the challenge! I can make the healthiest, most greenest, most vibrant plant that you can't kill deader than a rotted fish head so fast, it'll make your head spin. (or perhaps it's the smell of the fishheads that'll make your head spin, either way, you'll have a spinning head and perhaps green-pea-soup being vomited everywhere.)

Where in HELL did I come up with THAT?

Anyways, I did some inspection this morning and one the bareroots from Palatine is leafed out a bit, but the others are just waiting patiently. They're not dead, I can feel that they're alive somehow, they're just waiting. In conjunction with them waiting are my lilacs. My big big lilac is *still* waiting to bloom out.. and I *finally* got 1 little flower on my forsythia. wow. How amazing. My ash trees & golden chain is barely starting to unfurl some leaves, my maples are still barely going out, my crabapple was just in the blooming phase... I think my yard is about 2 months behind. Heck, even today's weather is more like a blustery March spring day rather than the latter half of May. Bleh.

But, on that note, I saw a hummingbird 3 days ago! YAY!!!!!!!! Of course, the poor thing probably froze that night (that's the last freezing night we had where it actually went back down to 29 degs.. *sigh*), but I had to get some feeders as none of my hummingbird plants are ready for hummers.

On a side note, has anyone kept Sunsprite? I have 2, one from HD, one from a local nursery, and the one from HD bloomed, and then the blossoms shattered 2 days later! Wow!

Skiekitty, I have great credentials with killing plants. I killed a cactus in two weeks! I have killed a snake plant with neglect. And let us not forget that I lost every rose in my garden winter of 2008. Furthermore, I am sure I have a much longer history of killing plants than you do. So, I think I'm in a solid position to compete with you for the brown thumb award.

I've not grown Sunsprite, but have grown its descendent Sun Flare. I don't remember having quite the same problem with it. Maybe your plant will produce more flowers at a speed proportional to how fast they shatter! Or maybe your plant is like the famous bamboo that appeared in an episode of the Simpsons long ago.

I keep checking the Pickering site every day, but it still says:

"We have stopped taking orders at this time. We will resume taking orders
for the fall 2010 / spring 2011 season in August."

Is this not August?

I need Lorise and some more Persian Flames and Persian Lights. Here's Lorise. I think it's quite lovely:

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose...

Oh fudgy, I want that lorise!!! I'm still on the fence about pickering, bit it's probably due to my incompetence rather than bad roses. Just found put that I should NOT have removed the mulch away from the canes as theulch helps insulate from the extreme heat. Oops. I lost City of London and Veldfire isn't looking good either. *sigh*

Ditto here, never any problems with Pickering!

Alan

Well, all I can say is the heat and the JBs really did a number on my roses this summer. Still hot as Hades and I can't get any significant amount of time in the garden to take care of my babies. Poor things! They're on their own until it cools down. I have managed to prune some of the more pitiful looking ones and Molineux rewarded me with lots more blooms, but some of them are disreputable looking, to say the least. It's almost like a stroll through the unsavory part of town, if you know what I mean

Poor things and poor you. We're enjoying the coolest summer in years here in Northern California. Not cold, just cooler than the norm, rarely rising above 82 degrees. Even the weathermen are trying to recall whether they've ever seen a summer like this one. It's good for productivity and it's also keeping most of the mosquitoes at bay. Now if it would just get rid of the wasps, which are getting bolder and meaner by the day.

Bugs have been evil this year.. I can count over 25 bites on my left arm alone. I ended up getting two wasp catcher thingies.. one has like 15 dead wasps in it (mostly the mud wasps, but they're not afraid of humans and will not hesitate to sting you if you get close to their nest.. actually had a stinking papernest in my BBQ grill!! Didn't use the grill for like a week and when I opened the lid, woo nelly was it scary! ).

Angie - Pix of moleneux, please?

Toni: I've changed computers and my camera is sick right now, but I believe I posted photos of Molineux on the parade thread here as well. If not, I'll grab DH's camera and get a shot for you. Headed to visit my mom this weekend, so please bear with me and I'll get it done!

As soon as they start taking orders, I'm putting mine in for two Lavender Lassies. They're hybrid musks, and I want to place them on the east side of the house next to my two ginormous Bouquet Parfait hybrid musks, which bloom profusely despite being in complete afternoon shade.

I love Lavender Lassie and it blooms beautifully in the shade.

Pickering has now changed the date for fall orders from August to early September. This is annoying, but it's also a really good thing. Every year I order roses from Pickering and then scream when I later find the same things on the Palatine site. I'd much rather pay a few dollars more and buy plants from Palatine, but they usually start taking orders after Pickering does. This year, however, Palatine will start taking orders on September 1st, so I'll choose from there first and then check the Pickering site for roses Palatine isn't offering.

Sounds like a plan, Zu! Well, Molineux's blooms were dashed last week by all the thunderstorms moving through our area, so I don't have a current photo of it to post, as I promised Toni, but I do have several others blooming here and there. I'll do a walkabout tonight and snap a few.

Palatine shows Lavender Lassie as sold out, but I wonder if they'll have it available for fall orders.

Mike - What I did was all my "wish" roses from Pickering & Palatine I added to my order for 2011 from RU, and sent them a note asking if they'll have any of them. I ended up losing all of the roses from Pickering. GVR and Palatine all survived. So I'm batting a negative again with Pickering, but I'm betting that it's because 1) I ordered SOOOOO late and 2) I ended up killing them because they couldn't handle my ineptitude.

Angie - My Molineux survived!!!!!!!! I even have a gorgeous half-bloom (she started opening yesterday, but we had a rain last night and I didn't check it out this morning to see if she made it OK). Talk about a gorgeous honey yellow! Yay!!!!!!!! I'm so excited about Molineux!!! :) I have her planted behind Hot Princess and next to a Blue Girl, so I should get my desired effect of lilac blue/hot coralish-pink/warm honey yellow.

Pictures, Toni, pictures, please!

I'll get pictures tonight when I get home.. I'm getting ready to go to vacation tomorrow, but I'll do my damnest to get a picture tonight. At the very least, I'll take it and be posting it on the road (driving down to southern NM, so that'll be a long drive).

Urk! I promised a walkabout tonight, but as temps are still in the mid 90s, it's going to have to wait. Too dang hot for me!