Thanks, Sue. Didn't realize those were tour roses! I'll check out the stats in one of my rose books.
Terri: I don't know how tall your standard is, but The Fawn has remained fairly short for me, at least last year. But that was the first year in my garden, so I'm waiting to see what it does this year. However, I have it in a spot for a low-growing rose and it's fit the bill so far.