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Sep 22, 2013 8:00 AM CST
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Name: Charlie
Aurora, Ontario (Zone 5b)
Maintenance of Perennial Beds.
Love the wild ones too, Lucy.
They seem to be (classic?) purple here, with some white ones.
Along with the goldenrod, the fields and road sides are currently very attractive.

Thanks, Jo Ann.
Know what you mean.
I plant perennials closely and maintain closely placed plants.
As you know, over time, that's more work (particularly with perennials), but it looks nice almost immediately after initial planting.

Thanks, David.
Plant a lot of a magenta New England aster called 'Alma Pötschke'.
Just coming into bloom.
Will post pictures when it (and the lighting conditions!) are ready.
For me, the sequence of later dominant garden perennials goes garden phlox - then helenium (sneezeweed) - then asters (especially New England asters).
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Sep 22, 2013 8:14 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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I am a "looks nice immediately" person.
When I turned 70 I was overcome with impatience.I dont do perennial or annual seeds for that reason.
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Sep 22, 2013 9:14 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Charlie
Aurora, Ontario (Zone 5b)
Maintenance of Perennial Beds.
Sounds like we must be twins, Jo Ann!
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Sep 29, 2013 6:37 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Charlie
Aurora, Ontario (Zone 5b)
Maintenance of Perennial Beds.
This afternoon: things thinning out, but still lots of colour in the garden.

Front:

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Sep 29, 2013 6:51 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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Those are beautiful! What kind of asters are those? I just ordered 4 different Stokes asters.
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Sep 29, 2013 10:04 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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sigh--I guess we are too much of a spring garden to have color like that.
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Sep 30, 2013 3:25 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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Beautiful fall color
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Sep 30, 2013 10:00 AM CST
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Name: Charlie
Aurora, Ontario (Zone 5b)
Maintenance of Perennial Beds.
Thanks, All.

Susan, the magenta ones are New England aster 'Alma Pötschke' and the blue ones are smooth aster 'Bluebird'.
I like Stokes aster cultivars a lot, but find they're not so hardy here.

Think it's much easier to have neat spring gardens than a neat fall ones, Lucy.
Some of the fall perennials are very scaled up.

I particularly like the magenta New England asters, Jo Ann.
Think they go very well with purple, mauve and blue asters.

Magenta and Gertrude Jekyll:
Maybe repeating myself, but read a possible basis for her aversion to magenta in the garden.
A number of socially conscious people, during the Industrial Revolution, spoke against the new (then) industrially produced dyes,
their focus being on improving the lot of workers.
The second one produced was fuschine (magenta).
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Sep 30, 2013 4:57 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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SunnyBorders said:Thanks, All.

Susan, the magenta ones are New England aster 'Alma Pötschke' and the blue ones are smooth aster 'Bluebird'.
I like Stokes aster cultivars a lot, but find they're not so hardy here.

Think it's much easier to have neat spring gardens than a neat fall ones, Lucy.
Some of the fall perennials are very scaled up.

I particularly like the magenta New England asters, Jo Ann.
Think they go very well with purple, mauve and blue asters.

Magenta and Gertrude Jekyll:
Maybe repeating myself, but read a possible basis for her aversion to magenta in the garden.
A number of socially conscious people, during the Industrial Revolution, spoke against the new (then) industrially produced dyes,
their focus being on improving the lot of workers.
The second one produced was fuschine (magenta).



Thumbs up Thanks Charlie, those 'Alma Pötschke's' are beautiful. I have a 'Purple Dome' and I just love the late blooms and the bright purple flowers. I purchased 'September Ruby' hoping for the Magenta color that you have. I just got it but It says this one gets 4 feet tall. But the Stokes will be shorter so I ordered 5 of those. I see what you mean about them not being as hardy. That's a shame! Rolling my eyes.
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Oct 1, 2013 8:36 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Charlie
Aurora, Ontario (Zone 5b)
Maintenance of Perennial Beds.
I love Purple Dome too, Susan.
And it's such a pleasure not having to stake it.

Like you, my feeling is that if a perennial is not very hardy where one gardens, but is an attractive plant, it's still worth using it.
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Oct 1, 2013 5:04 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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Thumbs up Yes! That's for sure.
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Oct 15, 2013 7:11 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Charlie
Aurora, Ontario (Zone 5b)
Maintenance of Perennial Beds.
Not a lot left in the garden.
Much already cut back.

Today:

Arend's monkshood and Persicaria ('Firetail' and 'Golden Arrow').

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Obedient plant 'Vivid', phlox 'Nora Leigh' and smooth aster 'Bluebird'.

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Aster 'Purple Dome'.



White wood aster.

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Phlox 'Shockwave'.

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Eupatorium 'Chocolate'.



Chrysanthemum 'Mei Kyo'.



Allium 'Ozawa'.



Filler/replacements added this September:

Aster 'Henry III Purple'.

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Echinacea 'PowWow Wild Berry'.

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The "Buddy Pumpkin" (named for Buddy the Cat - same proportions).

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And friend.

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Oct 16, 2013 1:40 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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Looks like you got some good fall bloomers!! I love the asters especially Henry III and Bluebird which I do not have. Your Purple Dome is huge, I might need to move mine after seeing yours. I think that Firetail and shockwave would be good possibilities for me. I am trying to add more late bloomers.
Is Obedient plant invasive in your zone? I like your pumpkin art and friendly scare crow. Thumbs up
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Oct 16, 2013 8:52 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Charlie
Aurora, Ontario (Zone 5b)
Maintenance of Perennial Beds.
Thanks, Susan.

Find 'Bluebird' very reliable and it spreads gently.
It's still in flower after the 'Alma Pötschke' 's finished.
The bees love both.

Good point about obedient plant.
It is quite aggressive here, but friend gave me some of the cultivar 'Vivid', which is not supposed to be so aggressive.
We'll see!
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Oct 16, 2013 3:44 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
God is the only thing that matters.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 1 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Hibiscus Dragonflies Daylilies
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Thanks Charlie, that is good to know! You have a very beautiful garden. Thumbs up
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Mar 31, 2014 8:30 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Charlie
Aurora, Ontario (Zone 5b)
Maintenance of Perennial Beds.
It's been a long winter.

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Today, the first snowdrop. (two weeks later than 2013).
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And the first few perennials appearing as the snow and ice melt.
A Dianthus.
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Mar 31, 2014 9:36 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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Almost all our snow is gone, until next time as they say in fairy tales.
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Apr 1, 2014 2:12 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
God is the only thing that matters.
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I am happy for you both, this winter has been especially brutal especially for the north.

@SunnyBorders, congratulations on your snow drop, a sure sign of spring.
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Apr 1, 2014 12:05 PM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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I agree
It has been a very long winter
..a balanced life is worth pursuit.
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Apr 1, 2014 1:16 PM CST
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Name: Charlie
Aurora, Ontario (Zone 5b)
Maintenance of Perennial Beds.
Hi Lucy, Susan, Cinda.

I appreciate why "Arctic hysterias" can be associated with Arctic living.

Thanks, Susan; that's at least one bulb that escaped the voles.

Great quotation, Cinda.
Despite Susan's encouragement, at this time, I'd say our one snowdrop reminds me more of Horace's words concerning the mountains giving birth to a "ridiculous mouse".

But back to voles (meadow mice), it's mice (lots) and "ridiculous" isn't the right word.
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