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Name: Polly Kinsman
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PollyK
Nov 10, 2010 7:15 PM CST

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In a trade I received some very nice Lycoris squamigera bulbs. I'm pretty sure they are the pink ones.

This was three years ago. Since then I have gotten great foliage every fall. Nothing the rest of the year. No flowers at all. Now today I just noticed a ton of really nice foliage from them, fat and healthy looking. They have obviously spread underground.

Any suggestions? I may need to dig them up and send them south.
Name: Bev
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tggfisk
Nov 11, 2010 1:56 AM CST
I'm south. Just sayin' Big Grin
Name: Polly Kinsman
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PollyK
Nov 11, 2010 4:31 PM CST

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Oh, Bev, you are always so helpful!
Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Nov 11, 2010 5:22 PM CST
Polly, I'm wondering if you've got some other species, as I've only known them to produce foliage in spring. The foliage on mine looks very much like Daffodil foliage, only a bit wider. I had tried pushing my zone limits and planting some spider lily type Lycoris a few years ago, and they did produce some foliage in the fall. The foliage on those was narrower and deeper green.
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Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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PollyK
Nov 11, 2010 5:34 PM CST

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Could be Neal. I can get a pic tomorrow. It's wide and dark green. Definitely a lot wider than daff foliage. I didn't notice any foliage in the spring, but there may have been and I just didn't notice. It could be sprouting again with the warmer weather we've had. A lot of my lilies are.
Name: Bev
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tggfisk
Nov 12, 2010 5:40 AM CST
I try my best. Rolling my eyes.
Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Nov 12, 2010 2:24 PM CST
Ah, dark green you say- that also makes me think its likely to be another species. The foliage on mine is kind of a light gray green. I noticed Hyacinths pushing their little noses out of the ground today! I wouldn't think we've had enough cool weather for the current warm spell to stimulate that.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Bev
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tggfisk
Nov 12, 2010 5:36 PM CST
I've got a couple of glads and one of my pineapple lilies sprouting again. Kinda worried about them, but what can I say?! I've still got marigolds and impatiens blooming.
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piksihk
Apr 3, 2011 3:53 PM CST
I've not seen mine bloom... it's will be I don't even remember how long... I've moved them once into full sun and still nothing.
I'm very south!!!
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kevin51
Jul 29, 2011 6:02 PM CST
Grew up with these all my life. They are great even though I have none now. Just don't know what time to plant in my Zone 7 climate. Lee

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Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Jul 29, 2011 6:38 PM CST
Lee, I believe they're typically available in fall bulb catalogs. Brent&Becky's carries them.
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Name: Angie
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BookerC1
Aug 18, 2011 4:20 PM CST
Polly, I would think they would bloom for you. I do fine with them in zone 5a, which means I'm north of you (right? Or am I confused?) Colder than you, at any rate. Like Neal said, I get foliage in the spring, along with daffodils and hyacinths. Then the foliage completely disappears, and the space is just empty and covered with neighboring plants for most of the summer. Right about mid-August, a bloom stalk shoots up, 6-12 inches a DAY, and they start blooming on the 2nd or 3rd day.

Wondering if you have something different, if it sends leaves in the fall instead. You'd think it would have gotten it's seasons straightened out after a couple of years, if it was just confused by changing zones. LOL

Good luck with it, whatever it is!

Angie
Name: Polly Kinsman
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PollyK
Aug 18, 2011 5:35 PM CST

Gone But Not Forgotten

Angie, I am thinking it's a different one, as the leaves have not come up yet this year. Shoot, I forgot all about it. Will try to get a pic this year.

Thank you!
Name: Angie
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BookerC1
Aug 18, 2011 6:25 PM CST
*Blush* I didn't even notice how old this thread was. Shows you how well I pay attention! I'd be interested in seeing the foliage, if you do get a picture. Now I'm really curious!

Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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PollyK
Aug 18, 2011 6:33 PM CST

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I think that's going to happen a lot with threads, now that we've moved over from Cubits to ATP. I've posted on a couple that were a year old. Now if I can just remember the picture, duh.
Name: barb allison
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mamajack
Sep 9, 2011 11:08 AM CST
my squamigera bloom in the spring/early summer. lycoris take a year or two to bloom again after they are moved usually. although i have seen some very large red bulbs bloom the next year.

i just got sprengeri, longituba , caldwellii and a few others from bulbmeister. i have never seen it but he sent them with bloom stalks. longituba looked like a white squamigera. sprengeri is outstanding. now i am waiting on caldwellii.
Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Sep 9, 2011 5:12 PM CST
You got some really nice ones Barb! I was just looking them up on the Pacific Bulb Society site and had no idea there were so many hardy species. I wonder why your L.squamigera blooms when it does? I've only ever known them to bloom in late summer, a few months after the leaves have faded away. From what I've read, that's typical behavior for them. Lots of good Lycoris info and nice pics here:

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/lycoris
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: barb allison
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mamajack
Sep 9, 2011 6:01 PM CST
well neal you made me go look them up. you know i got those in trade. so could they be am. belladonna? how would i know? i don't really think am. belladonna is hardy here though. bulbmeister says they bloom in late july. maybe i remembered wrong. they do not bloom at the same time as radiata. i will pay attention next year.

i spent a bunch of money at bulbmeister this year on lycoris. every year i say i am going to purchase them all and every year i don't. i didn't buy them all but i did buy 8 or 9. a few of the bulbs were small but some of them were huge and had babies as well. i got one he called PLOT J. the picture of it is no longer up. i have no idea what it looked like now. also got houdyshellii, haywardii, blushing lady and flaming dragon.

and another thing i realized is this.......the yellow one......aurea is not cold hardy. i bought a dozen of those several years ago. they lived for a season but didn't return after 2 yrs. now i find that traubii and there is another yellow that is cold hardy. so i am going to have to make another purchase next year looks like. lol

what i don't get is HOW they hybridize lycoris. many of them are sterile.
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jmorth
Sep 11, 2011 9:46 AM CST
Mine were a bit later than usual this year, mid August instead of August 1st.
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Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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PollyK
Sep 11, 2011 3:19 PM CST

Gone But Not Forgotten

Love that pink with the blue on it.

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