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Jun 23, 2013 4:24 PM CST
Name: shirlee
southeast (Zone 6b)
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Here's a really weird one. This is the second bloom, and both blooms
have looked like this. If you enlarge the photo, you can see the lavender
coloring mingled with the purple.

(Sabine Baur x Duke Ellington) 5.5in
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Jun 23, 2013 4:43 PM CST
Name: James
South Bend, IN (Zone 5b)
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That's cool!
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Jun 23, 2013 4:45 PM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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That's really different Shirlee. Have never seen one quite like that before and I like it Thumbs up Thumbs up
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Jun 23, 2013 4:53 PM CST
Name: Leslie Mauck
Chapin, SC (Zone 7b)
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So many beautiful ones I can't remember them all. ADHD strikes again or is it the M word? LOL

Shirlee, looks like you may have a break there. Good job.
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Jun 23, 2013 4:54 PM CST
Name: Juli
Ohio (Zone 6a)
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Well, the first 3-4 years I tried hybridizing I didn't know about tets and dips or that you could not cross them. I did not have much success. *Blush*
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Jun 23, 2013 5:16 PM CST
Name: Mona
Guntown, Ms (Zone 7b)
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Shirlee, that's one awesome daylily. So many color variations and shapes. I really like it. Let's hope it will multiply and meet all the needed things to make it a winner for you.
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Jun 23, 2013 5:21 PM CST
Name: Debra
Nashville, TN (Zone 7a)
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Shirlee - It almost looks like batik! Neat!

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Jun 23, 2013 5:48 PM CST
Name: Ann
TN
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Shirlee, I join everyone else in saying that I really like the seedling. I hope it continues to look this way. Awesome!

Thanks to all for your comments about the Jiggy seedling. I am not sure what to do with it now.
Ann (farmerbell); TN
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Jun 23, 2013 6:28 PM CST
Name: shirlee
southeast (Zone 6b)
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Will have to wait and see if it continues to bloom like that. Thanks guys. I will
have to look up batik. Your input is important.

Ann, imho your Get Jiggy cross is a finished product.

Here's a group photo of seedlings this year. Click to enlarge
for full view. These three are different plants, but same cross.
(Wonder of it All x Gary Colby).


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Jun 23, 2013 6:30 PM CST
Name: shirlee
southeast (Zone 6b)
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I can't find batik.
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Jun 23, 2013 6:52 PM CST
Name: Mona
Guntown, Ms (Zone 7b)
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Are you looking for the Iris Batik??
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Jun 23, 2013 7:31 PM CST
Name: shirlee
southeast (Zone 6b)
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Debra mentioned that the weird daylily looked similar to Batik. Perhaps it is an iris. I was looking it up in
daylilies.

Thanks Mona. Actually the weird daylily does look similar to an iris, especially when it begins
to open as the petals are upright.
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Jun 23, 2013 9:18 PM CST
Name: Mona
Guntown, Ms (Zone 7b)
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By the way Ann, Please keep your seedling. It's a winner for sure. Or if you just don't want it, post it on the LA for sale. I assure you someone will buy it, especially if you're nice enough to send me an email letting me know it's on there nodding nodding nodding
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Jun 23, 2013 9:35 PM CST
Name: Debra
Nashville, TN (Zone 7a)
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Shirlee - Batik is a cloth that is traditionally made in Japan using was resist. There is an iris named Batik because it looks like a batik cloth print. I thought the pattern on this iris looked like the pattern in the eye of your seedling.

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Jun 23, 2013 9:47 PM CST
Name: Ann
TN
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Mona, I didn't mean to imply I wasn't going to keep the seedling. It is just that I don't know what to cross it with, if anything. Do I divide it as soon as it quits blooming or do I let it make a big clump. As a first year seedling the bud count isn't very good. Neither is the bud count in my yard on either parent. I tried Waves of Joy pollen and Stenciled di Fresco pollen, but it doesn't like either of these. However Stnciled di Fresco seems to like the pollen from this seedling. Hurray! Hurray!
Ann (farmerbell); TN
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Jun 23, 2013 10:24 PM CST
Name: shirlee
southeast (Zone 6b)
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Thanks Debra, I have just learned something new.
And I agree with you.

Ann, Stenciled di Fresco might be an interesting and surprising addition
to those genes. I will look forward to seeing it in the future if the cross
succeeds to fruition.

Another seedling: Please excuse the damaged petal.

((Touch of Royalty x Victorian Lace) x Lady Betty Fretz)) 6in
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Jun 24, 2013 5:15 AM CST
Name: Michele
Cantonment, FL zone 8b
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farmerbell said: Do I divide it as soon as it quits blooming or do I let it make a big clump. As a first year seedling the bud count isn't very good.



IMHO, first year seedlings you do not divide because you really want it to be established to see what it will do the second year.

Here is what we do (or try to do) Once we decide to keep a seedling the first year it either stays where it is or gets moved to a keeper bed. A lot of times our first year seedlings will be a clump by the end of the season but we leave them in a clump so we can get a good idea how the plant habit, etc will be on it the following season. Second year, if it gets deemed as a definite keeper then at the end of the season when it gets moved to it's permanent location or even if it stays where it is then it will be divided some to see if it will survive; some daylilies do not like to be divided and will just up and die when they are. Then if it survives and makes it through the third year then at the end of the season it will get divided into single or double fans and be ready to get registered and introduced.

I have seen the "divide and see if it dies" step skipped they just wait until the end of the third season and divide into SF or DF. But I have heard of this being done and the plant gets registered and then it all dies. So then you have a non-exsistant, registered plant. I'm sure this doesn't happen all too often, but it does happen.

If you are in a colder zone where plants don't bloom first or second year or they don't increase fast then it adds more years to this of course.


I wouldn't worry about it not liking the pollen, it will probably love it next year!! Out of half of my bloomed seedlings I would say half have set pods and half have not. I think it depends on the maturity of the plant if it will set or not plus where it's wanting to put it's energy. Even if all the seedlings are the same age they may not be at the same maturity level. I have some of my seedlings putting their energy into increasing and NOT sending up a scape much less a bloom Shrug! If you are really wanting it to set this year though I would put some dip pollen on it (if you have a dip) to get it in the mood. This usually works if we have a plant that isn't wanting to set pods.
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Jun 24, 2013 7:37 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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My first seedling of the year to bloom is MEMORIES OF OZ X (SEEDLING LIGHTHOUSE SATIN SLIPPER X SKINWALKER)Thumb of 2013-06-24/Hemlady/426252
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Jun 24, 2013 7:58 AM CST
Name: Debra
Nashville, TN (Zone 7a)
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Cindy - Your seedling has really pretty colors and a green throat that just keeps on going. I like the way the sepals are curling! What a great first seedling bloom of the season!

I'm still pretty excited about this Back Scratcher kid. It held well in the heat yesterday.
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Here's a closeup of the teeth and watermark.
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In the late afternoon heat:
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Here's a new one from today. Like its mama Shores of Time, that bottom petal doesn't want to fill out and lay down flat until it's had some sun.
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Black Plush X Starman's Quest
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Blue and white section of the seedling bed
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Debra
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Jun 24, 2013 8:13 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Thanks Debra. It is not very tall, maybe 26" but its a first year bloom ever.

Boy your Black Plush x Starman's Quest looks just like my Jester's Collar and Jester's Collar is (Black Plush x Flutterbye). They look very similar.

Very nice seedlings Debra Thumbs up
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