I am slightly disappointed in my garden crossing order for the two mentioned plants. They arrived in a pretty large proven winners box, but looks like the plants may have been trimmed.

will they bloom if they have been trimmed?

Proven winners plants repeatedly disappoint when I order them online.

Frillylily said: will they bloom if they have been trimmed?

Maybe. My plants usually have a huge first bloom in July, and a smaller "round 2" which overlaps and usually peaks in early September. I suspect trimming will knock out "round 1". With Florida's long blooming season, there is a good chance for blooms this year for Eric's new plants.
Eric, we want photos if they bloom.

I bought this Cherry Coco Latte the other day. I think I'd better get it planted! Love the bloom on it. There are two more big buds that should be opening soon.

Miamiu said: Proven winners plants repeatedly disappoint when I order them online.

I have ordered several times from Proven Winners on line and have been really impressed with them, they do well for me. The exception was a rose of sharron I ordered, which honestly just looked like a cutting and had about zero in way of roots and promptly died .I would not recommend buying trees/shrubs but the plants did great that I got. I did order AT LAST ROSE and it did amazing for me. Amazing, and I kill roses just by looking at them!

Rose1656 said: I bought this Cherry Coco Latte the other day. I think I'd better get it planted! Love the bloom on it. There are two more big buds that should be opening soon.

So pretty!

Hi,

Does any know the difference between a Halberd-leaved and Crimson-eyed Rose Mallow? The plant that I am calling a crimson-eyed came from a seed that I gathered in Asheville, NC. My research pointed to the crimson-eyed but has not been confirmed. I'm looking to this group for help.

Lance

Lance,
Halbeard-leaved rosemallow is the common name for the species Hibiscus laevis and Crimson-eyed rosemallow is one of the common names for the species Hibiscus moscheutos. As you have pictured - the obvious difference is the leaf shape. The flowers of H. laevis are as pictured also. However, H. moscheutos blooms can have many color variants, including a pink one with a white "eye" for which the common name "crimson-eyed" doesn't fit at all. These two species can hybridize with each other and at least three other species. If your plant doesn't really fit one or the other, that is something to consider...TMI?

DraDiana said: Lance,
Halbeard-leaved rosemallow is the common name for the species Hibiscus laevis and Crimson-eyed rosemallow is one of the common names for the species Hibiscus moscheutos. As you have pictured - the obvious difference is the leaf shape. The flowers of H. laevis are as pictured also. However, H. moscheutos blooms can have many color variants, including a pink one with a white "eye" for which the common name "crimson-eyed" doesn't fit at all. These two species can hybridize with each other and at least three other species. If your plant doesn't really fit one or the other, that is something to consider...TMI?

Diana,

Thanks for the info. Here's my dilemma. I'm a retired IT professional (i.e., computer nerd) as well as a plant lover. Theses two can be a dangerous combination. Currently, I find myself interested in "Hardy Hibiscus." I have around 30 varieties planted around my property. At some point in my career I was a database architect. Over the past month or so I have been trying to find a comprehensive guide to "Hardy Hibiscus." The database on this site is the closest I've found to something that can give good answers; however, the nerd in me still has numerous questions floating around in my head.

To me, hardy hibiscus, are kinda like hosta. For the casual gardener, there are only a limited number of combinations that make sense (primarily appearance.) IMHO, many of the variations that "hybridizers" (e.g., Summerific, Summer Spice, Luna, Fleming) create are more for their own egos (or marketing tools) then to create something dramatically new.

The bottom line... Is it feasible, or even worth it, for any community to put in the effort to try and create a comprehensive database of anything.

Probably just ranting. If interest exists out there in the Hardy Hibiscus community, I will be happy to discuss (on line or off line) further with anyone.

Lance

lancemedric said: Hi,

Does any know the difference between a Halberd-leaved and Crimson-eyed Rose Mallow? The plant that I am calling a crimson-eyed came from a seed that I gathered in Asheville, NC. My research pointed to the crimson-eyed but has not been confirmed. I'm looking to this group for help.

Lance

Lance, I agree with your identification. The top two are Hibiscus laevis and the bottom two are Hibiscus moscheutos (Crimson Eye Rosemallow). I might add that yours appears to be Hibiscus moscheutos ssp. moscheutos. As Diana said there are five closely related native American species that will hybridize with each other. All five of these species are used in creating the "Hardy Hibiscus" cultivars.
https://garden.org/ideas/view/...

If you plan on saving seeds from these two I would suggest bagging and hand pollinating to prevent cross-pollination.

https://garden.org/ideas/view/...

Horntoad said: Lance, I agree with your identification. The top two are Hibiscus laevis and the bottom two are Hibiscus moscheutos (Crimson Eye Rosemallow). I might add that yours appears to be Hibiscus moscheutos ssp. moscheutos. As Diana said there are five closely related native American species that will hybridize with each other. All five of these species are used in creating the "Hardy Hibiscus" cultivars.
https://garden.org/ideas/view/...

If you plan on saving seeds from these two I would suggest bagging and hand pollinating to prevent cross-pollination.

https://garden.org/ideas/view/...

Horntoad,

Thank you. I'm new to communicating via Forum, so I may not make elegant choices. Hopefully I will get better as time goes on. I am currently gathering data on what will probably be H. moscheutos cultivars. Down the road I will compare my findings with the current Hardy Hibiscus Plant List and determine if any change might be beneficial to the community.

Lance

I finally got a heartthrob after wanting it for six years.

Eric!
I still want one. Where did you order yours?

DraDiana said: Eric!
I still want one. Where did you order yours?

I bought it from plant maniac on ebay. He sells hibiscus. Well known seller. Only place I could find it online.

Miamiu said: I bought it from plant maniac on ebay. He sells hibiscus. Well known seller. Only place I could find it online.

David (plant maniac) is the man. Many of my hibiscus came from him. His plants are sturdy and securely packaged for shipping.

Lance

Thank you Eric and Lance. I won't buy from Ebay without endorsements such as yours. I'll check out plant maniac's offerings.

@Miamiu

I cannot find that seller on Ebay, do you have a link?

Frillylily said: @Miamiu

I cannot find that seller on Ebay, do you have a link?

Miamiu,

It was harder than I thought. I had to use a laptop (it would work on my iphone using the eBay app or Safari.)

From a laptop browser,

1) Get to eBay.com
2) Locate the Search box at the top right corner of the eBay page (i.e., the area of the screen that scrolls, not the entire browser window)
3) Click on the word "Advanced" (in small text) to the right of the Search box
3) Scroll down to the bottom of the page and you will see the Sellers area
4) Click on the "Only show items from:" check box
5) In the dialog box type plant_maniac
6) Press enter.

Let me know if doesn't work.

Lance

okay it was that underscore that I wasn't using! Still you would think it would offer similar suggestions, but I guess it does not do that.