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Nov 21, 2013 2:05 AM CST
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Dog Lover Daylilies Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Hummingbirder
Frogs and Toads Native Plants and Wildflowers Cottage Gardener Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Region: United States of America Xeriscape
Glen, try hitting the forward arrow when that happens. Works for me every time!

Gorgeous flowers!
Natalie
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Nov 21, 2013 5:28 AM CST
Name: Vickie
southern Indiana (Zone 6b)
Bee Lover Garden Photography Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Region: United States of America
Region: Indiana Garden Art Annuals Clematis Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 2
Yes, I have accidentally hit the back button, then hit the forward button to get it back. Scared me silly the first time I thought I lost everything!

I'm partial to pink daylilies and MRP and MDB are very nice looking!
May all your weeds be wildflowers. ~Author Unknown
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Nov 21, 2013 6:55 AM CST
Name: Michele
Cantonment, FL zone 8b
Seller of Garden Stuff Region: United States of America I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dragonflies Pollen collector Garden Ideas: Level 2
Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Hummingbirder Region: Florida Daylilies Container Gardener Butterflies
Gleni said:Michelle, copper oxychloride. Any advice for me is most welcome.


I have never heard of that and I don't think any of the copper fungicides have ever been proven to help with rust. I would assume that the copper fungicides are a contact fungicide so it would only kill the visible spores. You really need a systemic fungicide to get inside the plant as that is where it begins; what you see is in less scientific terms the end result of the infection.
I'm not sure what would be available where you live but what has proven effective for me is Headline, Banner Maxx (I use the generic-can't remember the name as there are a few), and Daconil liquid (I buy the professional size generic named Docket). If you Google these and get the active ingredient name it is easier to find generic brands that are usually less expensive than name brands. I tell everyone that you can get the granular form of Headline, it's called Cabrio, for a lot less than the liquid Headline and it will last awhile for someone who doesn't have lots and lots of daylilies (I can't remember if you ever said how many you have).

I rotate the Headline and Banner Maxx (they are the systemic fungicide) and add the Daconil (contact fungicide) every time; I do use Nickel plus as well. Some people spray weekly and others spray every 2 weeks; it's usually NOT a one time spray and you are done if you live in warmer, moist, humid climates. I start spraying before the rust ever shows it's face and have not seen rust here at all this year except on seedlings that are not sprayed. I make sure I saturate the plants and let it run onto the ground to get any hiding spores. These sprays may or may not cure rust but it has been said that Headline may have curative effects. The problem with rust is the spores can blow in from 60 miles away (I'm sure a lot further) so if you did get rid of it then it blew in from down the way it could possibly re-infect the plants.

Some people don't want to spray or can't and they just get rid of the "rust buckets" and tolerate the others as it is usually just certain times that rust appears. For someone who doesn't want to spray then they can cut the plants all the way down to where the green of the fan turns white (rust lives in the green) and dispose of the foliage and any dead debris in the garden and then hope there aren't any spores to re-infect the plants. From what I understand is rust spores need an opening in the foliage to get in so I would suggest actually spraying with some type of contact fungicide even if the person doesn't want to use any other chemicals so the spores that hide in the mulch or anywhere for that matter will be killed. Especially since you just given rust the biggest opening to get in when you cut the foliage. I have heard that Dawn soap acts as a contact fungicide (I think from Mark Carpenter) but I can't vouch for that; I use Dawn anyway as a spreader/sticker when I spray. It needs to be the regular or I guess they still call it Original Dawn, not the kind that is anti-bacterial or has bleach or other stuff.


Do you get any freezes at all in your area. If so then maybe just keeping the debris cleaned up and maybe cutting back the plants once right before you go into winter may help without spraying. We don't get cold enough here for that to happen even though we can get occasional freezes.


I hope some of this helps.
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Nov 21, 2013 6:59 AM CST
Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 6a)
"Have no patience for bare ground"
Glen, love those blooms.
Another suggestion is to open a new window in ATP, especially if you are searching for something else, so that your window that you are typing in will always be on the desktop. I do this when I am searching for a link that I want to attach to my post or get distracted by a link that someone else posted. Rolling on the floor laughing
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is, is amazing, isn't it. MichaelBurton

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Nov 21, 2013 7:08 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
(Lee Reinke X Rose F Kennedy) X Unk
Amaryllis Hybridizer Canning and food preservation Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids
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Michele, many thanks for the advice. I am indebted to you. I appreciate your effort and your help.
I will research up the chemicals and I will do what you advise. I have 135 daylilies with a package of wonders just delivered.
We don't get any low temperatures here and no frosts. I have one dormant cultivar that dies off and comes back looking so green but I am not sure of its future. I only have it because I liked the bloom and forgot to read the text. Lol.
Many, many thanks again.
The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Nov 21, 2013 7:19 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
(Lee Reinke X Rose F Kennedy) X Unk
Amaryllis Hybridizer Canning and food preservation Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Pollen collector Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plays in the sandbox Sedums Seed Starter
For some reason when I hit the back icon, it says the webpage has expired and then won't go forward to anything. It might be that I take ages to find the photos and something times out on me. Goodness I might have to catalogue them.
The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Nov 21, 2013 7:56 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
You might at that, Glen. Big Grin
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Nov 21, 2013 3:41 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
(Lee Reinke X Rose F Kennedy) X Unk
Amaryllis Hybridizer Canning and food preservation Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Pollen collector Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plays in the sandbox Sedums Seed Starter
Emma Tomlinson McHugh
My scapes have never been taller than 22" but supposed to grow to 32". I don't know why.




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The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Nov 21, 2013 4:40 PM CST
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Dog Lover Daylilies Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Hummingbirder
Frogs and Toads Native Plants and Wildflowers Cottage Gardener Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Region: United States of America Xeriscape
Oh my!! That is gorgeous!!!!
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Nov 21, 2013 5:14 PM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
Daylilies Hybridizer Irises Butterflies Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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I agree
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Nov 21, 2013 6:03 PM CST
Name: Vickie
southern Indiana (Zone 6b)
Bee Lover Garden Photography Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Region: United States of America
Region: Indiana Garden Art Annuals Clematis Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 2
I do what Mike said too. I may have two or three windows open at one time.

Emma TM is very pretty!
May all your weeds be wildflowers. ~Author Unknown
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Nov 21, 2013 7:05 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
How beautiful, and I am not all that fond of pinks!
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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Nov 21, 2013 7:37 PM CST
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Birds The WITWIT Badge Garden Ideas: Level 1 Roses
Irises Daylilies Cat Lover Region: California Region: United States of America
Glen, your spider blooms sure look like THIN MAN to me. I had it but ended up giving it away because I didn't care for the "arms all akimbo" look it always seemed to have (I've been spoiled by the curly ones, you see). But here is a picture of a typical bloom on my THIN MAN, and I think it certainly resembles one of the blooms in your pictures. I know you can never know for sure now, but I know what I would do… I'd label that sucker THIN MAN and be at peace!

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Nov 21, 2013 10:31 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
(Lee Reinke X Rose F Kennedy) X Unk
Amaryllis Hybridizer Canning and food preservation Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Pollen collector Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plays in the sandbox Sedums Seed Starter
Thanks Betty - I will do. After reading your article on photographing I am trying to do one photograph in the sun and one in the shade too. I think for the sun ones, one just has to accept that the photos aren't going to look perfect with little shadow's here and there.
The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Nov 22, 2013 12:07 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
(Lee Reinke X Rose F Kennedy) X Unk
Amaryllis Hybridizer Canning and food preservation Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Pollen collector Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plays in the sandbox Sedums Seed Starter
These are the goodies that just arrived. These I ordered last month before I was corrupted by extreme covetousness by coming to the daylily forums here. The first five I took from the popularity polls for 2012 AHS. The rest were selected by what colours I thought I had a lack off. They all had to be under $15 each. The last two were bonuses. I really wanted PRIMAL SCREAM but apparently you have to have polar bears as neighbours to grow it.
Do you approve?

BEAUTIFUL EDGINGS
BELA LUGOSI
JAN'S TWISTER
KING KAHUNA
LAURA HARWOOD
BAT MASTERSON
CHILI SPICE
DRAGON KING
EMMAUS
HAPPY APACHE
HEART'S GLEE
TOTALLY AWESOME
CLASSIC ROMANCE
FORTY-SECOND STREET
The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Nov 22, 2013 12:18 AM CST
Name: shirlee
southeast (Zone 6b)
Daylilies Hybridizer Seed Starter Pollen collector Garden Photography Garden Ideas: Level 1
Butterflies Birds Dragonflies Canning and food preservation Herbs Vegetable Grower
Glen, I can vouch for Laura Harwood. It has so many
blooms, especially when it clumps up. Haven't grown
any of the others.

Natalie, your pumpkin carving is fantastic.
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Nov 22, 2013 8:28 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
I have:


Beautiful Edgings. The edges are lighter here than they would be in a cooler climate
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Bela Lugosi. The first of my vampire/Halloween/old movie themed acquisitions and still my favorite.
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Also have Laura Harwood, but only long enough for it to have bloomed once. No photo, but I really liked it.
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Nov 22, 2013 1:23 PM CST
Name: Kim W
Md (Zone 6a)
More daylilies!!!!
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Pollen collector Cat Lover Daylilies Plant and/or Seed Trader
Hostas Echinacea Garden Art Region: Northeast US Region: United States of America
I have Bela Lugosi and Emmaus both are wonderful.

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It's my cats world, I'm just here to open the cans.
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Nov 22, 2013 3:59 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
(Lee Reinke X Rose F Kennedy) X Unk
Amaryllis Hybridizer Canning and food preservation Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Pollen collector Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plays in the sandbox Sedums Seed Starter
Debra, that is a worry about the edge and needing to be colder. I just noticed that mentioned elsewhere. Oh.
The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Nov 22, 2013 6:25 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
There is color shading, it is just lighter and in a more narrow band. On the flip side, though, I think I see some diamond dusting in the first photo I posted. Big Grin
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