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Sep 2, 2011 9:47 AM CST
Name: Pippi21
Silver Spring, Maryland 20906 (Zone 7a)
How do you post a message on this website without going to last page of the forum?

Is there a propagation forum or a forum that shows how to take cuttings, division of plants,etc.?

What is this Adeniums forum? Is it supposed to be addendum? I've looked in two dictionaries and don't find the word Adeniums..
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Sep 2, 2011 10:19 AM CST

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Pippi, Adeniums are also known as Desert Rose.
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Sep 2, 2011 12:57 PM CST
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11+
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Pippi, I agree! This website is quite new, and many of us are here from other places. This is an indeterminate conversation, it seems!

I plan to start posting more info about Adeniums, but I need to find the time.

I don't believe you can devide an Adenium. Good question!!!! haha, cut a big one in two, let it dry for a week or two, and then re-pot.

Pippi, click on the bold 'Adeniums', and you'll find a place where you can start a new thread.

Google 'adenium' and you'll find lots of info! Go to siamadenium.com Let it download, very slow, and look around there. VERY expensive nursery!!

Join the Yahoo Adeniums group for lively conversation and lots of advice. I can't give you a link, sorry.

OK, nice to be here!
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Sep 3, 2011 7:19 AM CST
Name: Sylvain Forest
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Almost like Lucy and me.
Container Gardener Region: Florida Orchids Plumerias Ponds Plant and/or Seed Trader
Tropicals
Adenium: a genus of flowering plants in the dogbane family, Apocynaceae. They are caudiciforms. They are also very collectible and very addictive.

Can be propagated by seeds or cuttings. I read somewhere (reference needed here) that cuttings will root readily if allowed to callus a few days before being planted into soil. However, cuttings will not develop the caudex that is prized by many gardeners. I have a neighbor that has 7 or 8 sticks sticking out of a large pots. And those plants have no caudex at all. They bloom well but that is it. These cuttings were ostensibly obtained by illicit means during the night. He has been warned to stay away from my babies: Gail has a gun and no sense of humor.

Plants grown from seeds inevitably develop the distinctive caudex. Those plants were once known as pachypodium (loosely translating into "elephant's foot"). Taxonomy is constantly evolving. Who dreams up these things, anyway?

Take care, all.
Sylvain.
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Sep 3, 2011 7:24 AM CST
Name: JT Sessions
Milton,Fl.
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Pippi21 said:How do you post a message on this website without going to last page of the forum?

Is there a propagation forum or a forum that shows how to take cuttings, division of plants,etc.?

What is this Adeniums forum? Is it supposed to be addendum? I've looked in two dictionaries and don't find the word Adeniums..


Yep,you caught us.This is really the addendum forum,we just misspelled the name when we started it..
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Sep 3, 2011 2:29 PM CST
Name: Ron Case
Marble Falls, Texas
HI folk hows things going I'm just checking in. We finally got a break from the high temps and high humidity.
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Its only 96 today kinda like a cold front But we are still in a drought am barely keeping everything alive we can only water on Saturday and Wednesday. After 8 pm or risk a fine. We started catching all of the water from the A/C units and its amazing how much water we get. but my DR.s are hanging in there I sneek in a little watering in the evenings (every other) giving them just enough to keep them going. We also moved everything we could into the greenhouse.
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They predicted rain all this week but none yet and that durned tropical storm went to La. We can't get a break. Oh well life goes on. I hope everyone is doing good and taking care I read the posts from time to time so I can keep up with everyone. I hope Jim is doing better. I also see quite a few newbies on here its always nice to meet net people. I just looked out the window and its clouding up so I'm gonna go do my rain dance again. It hasn't been working but it makes my wife laugh and the neighbors all think I crazy so they stay away Rolling on the floor laughing ...Ron
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Sep 4, 2011 9:46 AM CST
Name: Sylvain Forest
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Almost like Lucy and me.
Container Gardener Region: Florida Orchids Plumerias Ponds Plant and/or Seed Trader
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That's the spirit, Ron: keep the wife laughing and make sure the neighbors figure out you are crazy. It keeps them away. It always worked for me.

On the day where we moved into our first house, 33 years ago, the movers were busy bringing in the furniture. That's when the neighborhood's busy body decided to pay us an impromptu visit. Since the door was wide open, she walked right in. I was not amused and showed it openly. Gail was busy in the basement with the movers, so I got to greet her. My day had taken a turn for the worst. No good could come of that.

She announced that she saw the moving van and decided to come over for a cup of coffee. Strange idea: drop in unannounced into a stranger's house on their moving day. I knew Gail had put on a pot of coffee for the movers. It was fresh and hot. Skipping introductions entirely, I lead the gossip monger into the kitchen and poured her a cup of coffee into a styrofoam cup. She wanted 2 lumps sugar and a "cloud" of cream, which I promptly added. I gave her the foam cup, along with a wooden stirring stick and I told her: "Here, you'll need the stick to stir this while you're walking home. Good day to you.". And I escorted her to the front door, which I closed and locked behind her.

I was literally rolling on the floor laughing when Gail returned from the basement. I told her the story and that's when the fighting began. We lived there for 27 years and that woman never so much as glanced in our direction. You would think she harbored some kind of resentment: strange woman. And everyone thought I was crazy, what with all those weird toxic, perennial and invasive plants all over the place and that 14-food dandelion in the back yard. In retrospect, that cup of coffee was a wise investment.

Take care, all.
Sylvain.
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Sep 4, 2011 10:02 AM CST
Name: Ron Case
Marble Falls, Texas
Actually I only have 2 neighbors in the immediate area one right across the street and another behind me up on the hill 1/4 mile away. The one across the street and I became friends when 10 days after I moved in we had a 100 year flood and I had 6' of water over the entire 3 acres. My neighbor and I had to help each other out and the guy up on the hill came down and helped us move stuff up to his place which was high and dry so needless to say I am really close with all of my neighbors I helped the one across the street get a job where I worked and the old guy behind me is 82 now and last year I mowed his 4 acres 4 or 5 times when his tractor broke down.
That being said I totally agree with what you did that was rude of her to come around when the movers were there. She just wanted to see what you have and how good it is. I'm afraid she wouldn't have gotten the coffee just a friendly ask to come beck later if that didn't work then a boot would. Thumbs up Beside my neighbors already know I'm crazy. Smiling ....Ron
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Sep 5, 2011 10:16 PM CST
Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
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I just saw at a big box store some adeniums are all stems do you think i can cut these off and will a caudex grow?


there are some 14-18" tall and some smaller nice blooms but....

mike
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Sep 6, 2011 2:34 AM CST
Name: Tony Poyner
Cairns, Qld, Australia
Region: Australia Dog Lover Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
Hi Mike
There will be no problems cutting the adeniums back, I cut a few leggy ones back through our winter and they are full of leaves and buds now.
When you cut them back they should sprout a few new branches and make a more compact plant.
You can plant the branches as cutting, just give them a week for the ends to dry off a bit. Some people use coarse sand for their cuttings, I just use my standard Adenium potting mix.
I have read that they will eventually grow a caudex but it will take more time than a seedling.
Hope this helps Thumbs up
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Sep 6, 2011 5:17 AM CST

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I have never had a caudex grow from cuttings.
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Sep 6, 2011 7:07 AM CST
Name: Doris Klene
Greensburg,Indiana.
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I have tried the cuttings, never got a caudex so discarded them
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Sep 6, 2011 8:53 AM CST
Texas (Zone 8a)
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I can never root any cuttings. What is the secret to it???
The obstacle is the path. ~ Zen Proverb
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Sep 6, 2011 10:01 AM CST
Name: Doris Klene
Greensburg,Indiana.
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No secret, I just stick them in a good draining mix, they get roots but the stems stay skinny.
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Sep 6, 2011 10:37 AM CST
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11+
Charter ATP Member
Mandala, it's esoteric, I haven't been able to root cuttings, either.
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Sep 7, 2011 11:04 AM CST
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11+
Charter ATP Member
Aha! Words of wisdom from a professional, Jalandar, in India. Quote:

Hello Jalandar,
What is the reason for removing the plant form the pot and letting it sit for a month or two after pruning?
Thanks,

Jalandar:

"when the root reach the bottom of the pot, it starts to recoil. After some time when there is no space for the root to grow it starts blocking the drain holes in the pot, thus preventing the water to drain. While removing the plant there will be micro injuries to the roots

If you pot immediately and start pouring water, the plant will start to rot from the bottom.
The other reason is forcing the plant to flower .

When you want to prepare for a exhibition take your plant out , sit out for a month, re pot, bingo 60 to 90 days the plant in full bloom without any leaves.
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Of course, you do not --have to-- repot when pruning.

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Sep 7, 2011 11:40 AM CST

Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Forum moderator
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Great information!!
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Sep 7, 2011 12:16 PM CST
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11+
Charter ATP Member
This is a really good website:

http://www.adeniumsindia.com/h...

I just found it, lots of info, lots of photos.
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Sep 10, 2011 7:47 AM CST
Name: Sylvain Forest
Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Almost like Lucy and me.
Container Gardener Region: Florida Orchids Plumerias Ponds Plant and/or Seed Trader
Tropicals
Hi.

I went to adeniumsindia.com. I just loved the slide show on how to polinate your adeniums by hand and the almost surgical technique used to get to the polen and receptive areas. Very well done. I polinated about a dozen flowers using their technique. We'll see if the operation generates seeds. It is finicky but it is something I enjoy doing. However, I must admit that my method of sticking a watercolor brush in the throat of the flower and swirling it around has produced decent results. Great web site. Thanks, Melissa.

Sylvain.
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Sep 10, 2011 12:48 PM CST
Name: Ron Case
Marble Falls, Texas
I liked the website also it inspired me to mess with a couple of my plants I had one "Red Flabettte" that was root bound and some of the roots were rotten on the bottom so I cleaned it all up and trimmed it up and now the poor thing is hanging in my shed I am hoping for a good recovery I also trimmed a big branch on a "Black Fire" and decided to try and graft it to a small pink I had, we'll see how it all goes....Ron.

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