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Mar 12, 2014 5:29 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
We've inherited an old hedge that's been substantially chopped back and just now really leafing out again and I see that there are two different plants together here....

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The plant with smooth edged leaves, I'm thinking is privet....


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Not a 'hedge' person, but I guess I'll be working with this one........TIA..

At a total loss on this one with the small, glossy, serrated leaves...



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I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Mar 12, 2014 5:31 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
The foliage in photo #3 reminds me of Viburnum.
~ I'm an old gal who still loves playing in the dirt!
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


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Mar 12, 2014 5:45 PM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
You probably haven't been there long enough to see if there are any blooms have you, Sherri?
I garden for the pollinators.
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Mar 12, 2014 6:21 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
The only viburnum that's I'm used to has leaves that are more leathery than that, but anything is possible....

tee, that hedge was chopped back so .....it would be surprising to have any bloom, but everything is leafing out now, so maybe before long. We decided to go ahead with the deal and take care of the easement problem with county ourselves...closing escrow tomorrow...new roof goes on Monday.

I know I must have seen these plants before, they do look familiar, just never paid much attention..

Yes, hopefully they will flower.....then we'll see....
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Mar 13, 2014 4:05 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
I know. They both look very familiar to me. I know we had them in several locations out there. We planted and landscaped several places up and down the West Coast. I hope the names will come to me soon because I'll think about it until they do. Green Grin!
I garden for the pollinators.
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Mar 13, 2014 7:15 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
I looked again at the smooth leaved one...not privet, of course not..lol..
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Mar 13, 2014 7:33 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
The plant in photo #3 just reminded me of a viburnum that grows here:

Sweet Viburnum (Viburnum odoratissimum)

http://selectree.calpoly.edu/t...

The plant with serrated leaf margins reminds me a bit of Osmanthus but I don't even know if that grows in your area.

I'm always curious so I hope someone can identify them for you! Maybe other's from California will see this post and recognize one or both.
~ I'm an old gal who still loves playing in the dirt!
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


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Mar 13, 2014 7:45 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
Osmanthus fragrans does grow along the coast there.

Here's a site with a good photo you can mouse-over to enlarge.
http://www.boethingtreeland.co...
I garden for the pollinators.
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Mar 13, 2014 9:01 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Tee: That sure looks a lot like the plant in the third photo, both leaves and bark. There are a couple listed in the database:

Tea Olive (Osmanthus fragrans)

Osmanthus fragrans 'Fudingzhu'
~ I'm an old gal who still loves playing in the dirt!
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


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Mar 13, 2014 9:06 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
Yes, it does, Lin. White blooms would be a good indicator should the plant bloom. It has obviously been whacked quite a bit over time as opposed to being pruned.
I garden for the pollinators.
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Mar 13, 2014 10:38 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
I would certainly hope for both of those. Yes, the osmanthus does grow here and I've always wanted to grow that...and I would welcome the viburnum also....could I be so lucky? I had one viburnum years ago, though a different one. Love white flowers and I'm nuts for anything fragrant I would be overjoyed as the other items they've left me don't suit me at all....lol..Two large camellias of the gaudy splotched bright rose pink type, those will go (wish they could have been white or palest pink). A couple of huge cotoneasters that would be a real pain to dig out. A couple of other little shrubs that have been so mangled through the years, that I've just cut them to the ground to see if I'll keep them or not. A lot of reseeding crocosmias that I figure will probably be chasmanthe and those will go also. I'm happy about the 'spread everywhere' alpine strawberries, the violets, the callas, wallflowers and what appears to be some type of geranium coming up around the foundation....and there is what must be a self sown buddleja (probably davidii) over in the tangle of brush and brambles. I googled leaves last night and finally gave up, deciding we will just have to wait for bloom...hoping you guys are right on the viburnum and osmanthus...thanks.
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Mar 13, 2014 11:14 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Sherry: Oh my, the Camellia's sound so pretty to me! Wish I lived closer, I'd take them! Smiling For smaller plants like the Chasmanthe maybe you could offer them on the Classified forum? I found this one in the database that is gorgeous! Pennants (Chasmanthe floribunda) and this one isn't half bad either! Adam's Rib (Chasmanthe bicolor)
~ I'm an old gal who still loves playing in the dirt!
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


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Mar 13, 2014 11:50 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
I don't know about other areas, but my property in SoCal was overrun with chasmanthe....lol..the best I can say for it is that it's reliable and the hummers love it. I've always had so much of it for sooo long that given, the much smaller amount of space I have here, I would not waste the space on it...other forms of crocosmias, yes, but not the orange. You can dig them, throw them in a corner and they'll sprout, root, naturalize...which may be what I'll do here, toss them over in the 'wild' of the undeveloped wilderness next door...then the hummers will still have them to enjoy...lol...I'll always remember one of my co-workers telling me how thrilled she was with some corms she found wild on one of her walks and brought some in to share with me...yep, chasmanthe. Years ago I invited my neighbor to go to an RU at drdon's (DG)...she'd bought the front house from us and wanted to take things to exchange with others and so had dug tons of the chasmanthe corms, bagged and labeled them nicely and took them along, labeled 'crocosmia'...I still remember those who later said to me..."Oh...they were chasmanthe....". Just too much of a good thing, I suppose...under appreciated where they grow rampant...People here view Fortnight Lilies in much the same way...they're so sturdy, hardy, drought tolerant, etc that they are used everywhere and people become very blase if not sometimes 'hostile' about them...I do still love those though. They're beautiful and fill a niche that others may not....widely used for a good reason.

Oh...and there is also a good sized rhododenron in front of the house ...unless it is one of the soft colors, it will go also...I'm thinking it's going to be one of the bright, gaudy ones....lol..

The camellias would be pretty difficult to transplant...9-10' tall.
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Mar 15, 2014 7:56 PM CST
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
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chasmanthe = Fortnight Lilies?
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
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Mar 15, 2014 8:04 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
Sorry...guess that phrasing could be misleading...no, fortnight lilies are dietes or moraea...however they have them categorized now...seems like things keep changing.
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Mar 15, 2014 8:08 PM CST
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Photo Contest Winner: 2017
Thanks. I keep a list of 'Not lilies named lily' (once was a thread).
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
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Apr 25, 2014 4:50 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
The smooth leaved one is flowering now...must be privet? It still does not look like the privet tht I had in SoCal, but....

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Privet?


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I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Apr 26, 2014 2:50 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
That is what the blooms appear to be. Is it a wax leaf privet or some other variety? Ligustrum japonicum 'Texanum' is commonly used as a hedge in SoCal.
I garden for the pollinators.
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Apr 26, 2014 6:20 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
No, tee...not wax leaf. I had that in SoCal also. Maybe the difference is in climate and the amount of water it gets here.
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Apr 26, 2014 6:25 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
I had it in SoCal but not in my garden in NorCal. It could be the difference in growing conditions, I suppose. I don't know for certain.
I garden for the pollinators.

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