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Jan 23, 2016 2:21 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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Enjoys or suffers cold winters
They also give very funny talks. I know JI like Siberians like acidic soil. I don't grow JI.
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Jan 26, 2016 3:38 AM CST
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Name: Paul
Bunbury, Western Australia. (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia
gemini_sage said:Paul, you may want to consider emailing the gentlemen at Ensata Gardens. They're knowledgeable growers and hybridizers and very kind.

http://www.ensata.com/index.ht...

G'day Neal--thanks mate,you know a lot about a lot of stuff Smiling

Hi Della --sorry to hear your JIs aren't thriving.In this thread, I've recorded everything that I did from day one, including pictures and dates.The soil that I used is peat dug from a local peat bog and the seedlings and mature plants are thriving.Those seedlings did not really take off until they were standing in about an inch of fertilised water--I use Yates soluble crystals, the high nitrogen one.
I'm only into my third year of hybridizing Japanese Iris and am still experimenting.Taking lots of pictures certainly helps me.If you go back somewhere near the start, you will see how awful my seedlings looked until I transplanted them into peat soil in individual pots and stood them in water. (BTW, Tall Boy has flowered and is different to my Tall Boy, so thank you!!)

A few more 2014 seedlings

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Jan 26, 2016 9:26 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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What a nice soft pinkish lavender the first one is! They are both really nice Paul.

Another hybridizer who you may want to contact is Chad Harris at Mt. Pleasant Farm. He is very passionate about his beardless iris, and has produced some absolutely beautiful JI's.

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Washougal, WA 98671
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Jan 26, 2016 9:31 AM CST
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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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Beautiful colors on these two Paul. Is 14-2-29 more pink or lavender? Are you tracking branching and bud count?
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Jan 26, 2016 9:32 AM CST
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Name: Evan
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Smiling I agree Leslie.
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Jan 26, 2016 9:49 AM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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Both of those are stunners! What size were those blooms?
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Jan 27, 2016 6:40 AM CST
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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Paul, I'm really glad the (hopefully!) real Tall Boy is doing well for you! I have some beautifully healthy seedlings from pods I set on mine last year, and the seed you sent has also produced some outstanding seedlings. Can hardly wait till next summer. Green Grin!

The JI seedlings I'll just keep tinkering with till I either find success or they all die! They are standing in shallow water now but I haven't tried feeding them up - that's next. Love that second seedling!
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Sep 4, 2016 1:55 AM CST
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Name: Paul
Bunbury, Western Australia. (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia
Sigh, where has this year gone?It has been a rotten last 10 months, but things are now on the up and up.Spring has sprung and new seedlings starting growth.Pictures to follow.Sorry I've been very slow in replying to people's posts *Blush* I know some of you enjoy this journey as much as I.There is nothing like pollinating a bloom, collecting the seed, going through the sowing process, germination, several potting-ups, and finally a flowering stem showing colour.Will it be sufficiently different, or just another Jap iris, pretty, but just so-so.

Della, how are your JI seedlings going, or are they all gone? Crying If the latter, keep trying as once you get the hang of it, they are so easy and rewarding.

Neal, I haven't contacted the guys at Ensata Gardens yet, but regularly visit their web pages and drool.
Those last two pictures posted are just shy of 8 inches and the seedling 14-2-29 is more lavender than pink.They are both really stunning seedlings.Hope I can still say the same after their second flowering!
Evan, I should be recording bud count and branching, but honestly I just run out of puff most days.Have slowed down considerably this year.
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Sep 4, 2016 2:13 AM CST
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Name: Paul
Bunbury, Western Australia. (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia
My 2016 seedlings have been very slow to germinate this year.I did a count last month and only 41 out of about 1000 sown seed were up.I think it was because I did not soak them in tea for 3 days and then refrigerate for 4-6 weeks before sowing.Or maybe seed quality was very poor due to the season?Or maybe they may still emerge.Or possible my heart wasn't into it at that time as my beautiful Mischa (German Shepherd) was killed by a snake.Thankfully I'm over that.
Here is a picture of the 2016 yet-to-germinate seed.
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Sep 4, 2016 2:42 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Paul
Bunbury, Western Australia. (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia
Now, on a brighter note.My 2015 seedlings, which most should flower this year are coming along in flying colours.I've spent the last 3 days potting them up from their 140 mm pots (1.5 litre) to their final 6 litre pots.
I'll post the 2015 seedling progressive picture stages so I don't confuse anyone, including myself.I use this forum also for my own benefit, so I may record and learn how the seasons unfold.
First the pictures of the 2015 seedlings when in 68mm pots.

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Sep 4, 2016 2:55 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Paul
Bunbury, Western Australia. (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia
And so, in the last 3 days, these 2015 seedlings were all potted up into their final 6 litre pots
First the high tech potting area

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the plants with root system

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and finally in the growing area

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The old dairy in the back ground

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Sep 4, 2016 3:59 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Paul, So sorry to hear about Mischa Group hug I can see that you have good reason to run out of "Puff", that looks like a great deal of work you have done. Is the soil not good that you keep the all in pots, or do they just do better that way? I can't wait to see pictures of the new blooms.
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Sep 4, 2016 11:11 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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I'm impressed. Like Tom, I am looking forward to pictures.
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Sep 4, 2016 11:49 AM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
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Group hug Paul, so sorry about Mischa.
I agree about wanting to see pictures.
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Sep 6, 2016 8:26 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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Paul - so sorry about your lovely dog. Group hug

I am really enjoying watching your progress. Do you often get second year bloom on your seedlings? They certainly look like they love the conditions they are in. Lots of root mass!!
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Sep 7, 2016 4:34 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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I'm also sorry about your loss of Mischa. Several of us here on ATP/NGA have lost beloved dogs recently. We understand exactly what you're going through. And a snake??? Oh my...............:grouphug:
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Sep 7, 2016 2:14 PM CST
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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I am sorry too. Group hug

I am excited to say that my new Japanese iris is growing well. I cannot wait to see some new colors next year. Hurray!
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Sep 8, 2016 8:29 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Paul
Bunbury, Western Australia. (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia
Thanks people.
It's easier for me to handle this amount of seedlings each year by growing in deep pots.There are also less weeds, though still far to many, its easier when they are on concrete and simple to move to a better position to pollinate or photograph.Our summers are far too hot and dry and strong wind ruins what you have waited a year to see.
I should have made arched shade house covers over these stock yards, I have the 6 metre long weld mesh now for over a year, plus the shade mesh, but not the time or energy, let alone the agility.I may get in a couple of European back-packers in the summer to do it.There are always heaps of German, Swiss, Dutch, Belgiums or Italians doing a 2 -3 month working holiday in Australia and looking for short time work before moving on to their next point of interest.It would only take a couple of days anyway.
After several days of 18C - 21C which had me flat out pollinating the daffodils, heavy rain has been forecast for the next week, so gave my Japanese iris their first fertilizer this season.What I use is NPK of 7.8-3.8-9.6 with 13.9 sulphur and 8.4 calcium.If any Australians are ready this, this is an Incitec product known as Complete 2,2 and 1.
The soil Tom, was dug from a local farmers peat bog just over two years ago.I bought 45 cu metres and before that 10 cu metres.The 10 cu metres is better quality peat and I use this to start them off in their 68mm pots.The rest of the peat, 35 cu metres was spread to create a future daffodil and siberian iris garden, the last 10 cu metres is what you see in the last lot of pictures and it is from here that the final potting is done.I have bought enough soil to last until they cart me off, willingly or not Rolling my eyes.
Leslie, I'm expecting over half to bloom this year, in fact more as I've grown them better this year with the experience I learnt after the first year and Teresa, I hope your new Japanese iris grow like topsy for you.
Can't wait to post any new decent blooms on this years seedlings.
SNAKE SEASON STARTS ABOUT NEXT MONTH Grumbling .We have heaps and all are deadly.I am going to try a new deterrent that I researched.It's just phenyle, which you spray in the area where your snakes may slither.Apparently as they taste the air with their forked tongues, the smell puts them off and they buzz off.
Here is a picture taken yesterday of the new area with oats as my green manure crop for the second year.

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Sep 9, 2016 3:30 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Looks great!
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Sep 9, 2016 3:39 AM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Seed Starter
Hi Paul @vanozzi,
I hope your property isn't flooded by last night's downpour. Crossing Fingers!

Do you sell your plants or grow them for your own pleasure? I have a couple of damp spots in my garden where I think they would thrive.

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