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Aug 3, 2015 3:36 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
The contractor said that he prefers to use either Samsung or Daiken for the mini-split, 1 ton unit.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 4, 2015 4:42 AM CST
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Thanks Ken!
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Aug 4, 2015 5:24 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Good luck with your project, Kathy.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 4, 2015 10:08 AM CST
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Thanks. It changes every day!
How are things going there?
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Aug 4, 2015 12:11 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
The three ceiling fans and eight lights as well as the porch's vinyl ceiling/trim have been removed. Now you can see all the way into my attic. I hope we don't get invaded by critters. I don't know what comes next. There is a 32'x18" beam and two columns that have to be removed. I guess the roof and fascia up to that beam will have to be cut, some 2+ ft. I have never seen an elevation and don't really understand how the glass will be connected to the roof. Sighing!
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 12, 2015 11:04 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
The porch demolition is complete with the exception of removing the huge, 2' thick beam. The gutters and downspouts are gone and all that's left of the porch ceiling are the rafters.

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Thumb of 2015-08-12/drdawg/942b6e Thumb of 2015-08-12/drdawg/67cbe1The brick has been removed and the double window will become matching French doors. The tile flooring will be covered with about 4" of concrete, to bring both the porch and patio up to the level of the house flooring. The two columns will be replaced with one and the 2' (layered) beam will be replaced with a nice laminated beam. The column and beam will be stained the same as the tongue and groove ceiling.



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Thumb of 2015-08-12/drdawg/2587bc I had to move a couple of irrigation heads before they begin to excavate to enlarge the patio (tomorrow). There are three irrigation pipes here, a 2", a 1 1/2", and a 1".
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 12, 2015 11:15 AM CST
Name: Melissa
Memphis, TN (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Permaculture Orchids Hummingbirder Hostas
Greenhouse Dog Lover Cat Lover Garden Photography Region: Tennessee
Looking good!
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Aug 12, 2015 12:02 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I had the carpenters ask about my tomatoes, and I am loaded with the two varieties. They said they had never heard of tomatoes like I grow, much less seen/tasted any. They kind of whined about store-bought, tasteless tomatoes, so I am giving each of them a bag-full this afternoon. They are in for a treat. Hurray!
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 12, 2015 1:11 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
Orchids Plumerias Cactus and Succulents Region: New Jersey Region: Pennsylvania Native Plants and Wildflowers
Greenhouse Ponds Keeper of Koi Forum moderator Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Adeniums
Ken, that looks promising and I am sure your Carpenter Guys will love the Tomatoes. I am only buying Tomatoes here at the numerous Farmer Market's around here the Summer
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Aug 12, 2015 2:07 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
Amaryllis Tropicals Multi-Region Gardener Orchids Master Gardener: Florida Irises
Herbs Region: Florida Vegetable Grower Daylilies Birds Cat Lover
Me, too Ursula. Can't stand tomatoes from the store anymore.

Ken, its great to keep on the good side of your workers. Offer them grilled Blt's on the day they finish up? Otherwise they'll drag their feet on your project to keep scoring the wonderful tomatoes.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Aug 12, 2015 2:16 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
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I think I will offer them a beer or a glass of wine to go along with that BLT the day they finish (I think they probably prefer beer), and let them know that's their reward.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 17, 2015 8:27 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Hurray! The electrician is here. All the electrical lines/boxes must be run before the ceiling (in the porch) can be insulated and the beaded board ceiling put up. Now I need a plumber to show up so that the drainage trench can be put in place, the trench/sink waste lines run out into the yard, and the water pipes put in place to service the potting bench sink. Then we will be close to being able to overlay the 4" of concrete over the existing tile/patio and extending the patio 8' with new concrete.

Maybe I'll be in the sunroom before winter arrives Whistling
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 19, 2015 2:27 PM CST
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Congrats! I am in limbo in every way possible!
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Aug 19, 2015 3:14 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Has the demolition part been decided upon or are you still in the planning stage?
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 19, 2015 4:15 PM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
Birds Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: North Carolina Hydrangeas Hummingbirder Dog Lover
Container Gardener Charter ATP Member Garden Photography Butterflies Tropicals Ponds
Kathy, not to add to your confusion but investigate the window film carefully. We have untinted 3M film on our sunroom windows and I was promised my plants would love it. Not true. Things just do not grow as well and it looks like light deprivation to me. Sadly every window in the house has this film; it is almost a necessity when you live on a barrier island.
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
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Aug 19, 2015 4:31 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Not much progress here. The electrician ran some wires and re-aligned all the (8) ceiling lights. The beam was thickened (it was a gigantic 2' x 4") to 2' x 8'. The glass weighs several thousand pounds and this beam also has to hold up a 32' length of roof. Better too much beam than too little I guess. About half the beaded-board was put up and you can see that the ceiling is open wide, right into the attic space. The rest of the beaded-board won't be put up until the plumber gets the hot/cold water pipes run from the attic and the insulation is laid in.

A few pieces of the major glass frame was unpacked just so the carpenters could see what they looked liked. I don't think they could tell heads or tails of it. I had the glass roof/walls construction plans printed out and I gave my copy to the head carpenter. He said he had to do some "homework" tonight. Whistling

Hopefully tomorrow, the concrete framing will get done and the plumber will show up and get those two pipes run, the floor trench-drain put in, and the two waste-water lines run out into the yard.

I guess some progress is better than none. Sighing!

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drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 19, 2015 6:34 PM CST
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
I have had 2 carpenters give me opinions/options and Steve at Florian too. No one is giving me an estimate yet. Definitely planning stages which change weekly. Looks like I will have to set up lights in the basement if we sell our farm in fall or winter. So weird since this is the best place I have ever lived and it's so hard to sell!!!
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Aug 19, 2015 8:13 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Spend a bit more and get the T-5HO, 6-tube fixtures, Kathy. They produce an incredible about of light and do so economically. Your plants will think they are in S. Florida.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 21, 2015 3:59 PM CST
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
You are ahead of me Ken. I planned on asking what to get soon! How big an area do they cover?
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Aug 21, 2015 4:40 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Four of the six-tube, four foot long fixtures light my 10'x12' greenhouse very well, Kathy. It is about as bright as winter daylight at noon. These are all T5HO tubes. Four tubes are 6500K and two tubes are the 4000K in each fixture. They are mounted as close to the ceiling (9' high) as I could get them, about 6" from the ceiling. I ended up moving my top shelves down about a foot (they are now approximately 2..5' from the ceiling because the lights are so intense, they were beginning to cause some signs of early sunburn on the more tender Catt. orchids. I now have my orchids no closer than 18" to those tubes. I keep my seedlings no closer than 3' to the lights. It might be more like 4'. It will be interesting to see what my Adenium seedlings do under the lights, and how close they can be to them.
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The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.

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