First choice for me would be 'The Red Douglas'. I love this one.


'Phalanx' is 1951, but doesn't have that tailored look that I associate w/ the 50's..

Well, I doubt you want a 50's-70's red self.....your "red noid" would fill that bill, as good as any. So, there is:

Apache (Farr 1926) IB, if you want a slightly smaller, earlier iris



Cayenne Capers (Gibson 1959/61) if you don't mind a "slightly newer' one..it's a nice plic, blooms well....and also does Re ,here.



and good, old ,Indian Chief (Ayers 1929)......hard to beat, if you want a tall one !



Kansas Ingleside ( Hillson 1939/40) another that Re's here



Picador (Morrison 1930) maybe a bit too 'varigata' for a real "red"



Potawatomi (Wise 1949) another that Re's here


Red Chieftain ( Sass Bros. 1954/55)



Sachem (Loomis 1930)



The Red Douglas (Jacob Sass 1937) this one was the Dykes winner in1941, and it seems to be understandable why it won......a real, nice iris !



And if you want a "little guy" for the front of the bed, there's "Red At Last" (Mahood 1969)
See if any of these trip your trigger, and, if not, we'll run some more by you !!
And, by the way, I have you down for some Autumn Twilight

We cross-posted, Sherry, and it looks like we agree that TRD is a nice iris

I watered my newly planted iris and pulled up tiny cypress vine sprouts :(

I would love to have more large mixed bed but I found it stresses me out to have them untidy so keeping it undercontrol keeps me happier in the long run. I give my neighbor a lot of plants and we walk together so I get to visit them lol.

I'm looking forward to The Red Douglas (thanks Sherry!). It will look great with Indian Chief and Shaw Jehan!

I think the Red Douglas is awesome, it will match my Husker's Red Pensteman really nice. I also like Indian Cheif. They would compliment each other nicely. Can't wait for Autumn Twilight.
I thought of the red NOID, but I was wanting older stuff in there.

Quapaw is a nice red one.



It was my favorite red this spring. I wonder what will be my favorite one next spring. lol

Quaqaw is nice, but I want the older dog eared types to match what's there.

I love that one, Bonnie.............

Bonnie -- you should put that photo in the database. It's a better photo than the other ones there (which are also yours, I realize).

I know I'll have some IC for next year, and I'll put that on your list , as well....not sure about TRD, but I'll put you down, until I'm sure, one way ,or the other, Tom.


this is "Red Orchid' ( Jacob Sass 1934), it's an IB, and a sweet , early bloomer, that, to my eye, looks like a "smaller version" of TRD

With all the recent rain, the ground was nice and soft. I took out violets, crab grass and bindweed from about a 4 x 4 area. The crab grass and seed free bindweed goes on the driveway to get baked in the sun before being tossed into compost. Seeds go in the trash.

There are Fabian, Mary Ann's noIDs, Blue Moon Siberians, globe thistle, obedience, marjoram, strawberries, kale, chives, probably some beets and magenta spiderworts in this garden.

The violets went in more landscaping trenches to fill them in. My son trenched around all my trees. I am bringing everything level again.

Hopefully ChipDrop actually drops some chips.

Big projects going on in your yard, Linnea!!!

Yes. I really need to just mow the weeds and work on doors and windows. Some day when no men are home, I am going to read a book and learn how to repair some siding and framing so I can pop a new door in. Then I can install a doggy door. I have a nice old carpentry book that uses hand tools. The book is newer than the house and older than I.

There are a couple of boards on the porch that should be replaced. Another cinchy job.

Arlyn just send me Rosy Wings this year, but from the pictures I've seen, it looks like it would go nicely with Indian Chief.

tveguy3 said:Quaqaw is nice, but I want the older dog eared types to match what's there.

Tom,
When I was looking through the database I thought this might be the type of Iris your looking for
"Manuel".

crowrita1 said:I know I'll have some IC for next year, and I'll put that on your list , as well....not sure about TRD, but I'll put you down, until I'm sure, one way ,or the other, Tom.

• Intermediate Bearded Iris (Iris 'Red Orchid')
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this is "Red Orchid' ( Jacob Sass 1934), it's an IB, and a sweet , early bloomer, that, to my eye, looks like a "smaller version" of TRD

Those 3 will do it nicely. They need to be taller ones to get above the other things in this mixed bed. Good grief, I can't believe I'm looking for next year when I haven't even gotten all of this year's yet.

tveguy3 said:That's progress Patrick! I had to do some running today so I didn't get much time to take advantage of the cool weather. I did manage to increase a part of the historic bed and do some weeding. I still have more increasing to do there, but I have made room to move at least 3 from their current place to this bed where they belong. I have four more historics that need to be moved into that bed yet this fall. Then I have to talk Arlyn out of some of that Autumn Twilight for next year. And I need to get a red historic for that bed too add some more color. Thinking about the ol' Indian Cheif, any suggestions on a nice red histoic?

For some reason, I have a lot of REDS this year - Indian Chief is one of them, and I have planted 2 rhizomes of this Historic iris this year. I also have "Ida Red", "Solid Mahogany",
"Caliente", "Sultans Palace" , "Dauntless" and of course I have "The Red Douglas", plus I
have "Samurai Warrior". So I'm inundated with Red Iris this year.

Patrick, Nice choices for reds. I would like to add Cajun spices, class ring, every which way, samurai warrior, Saturday night live, War chief.

Class Ring sure sticks out in that group, pretty modern. I have it and it's really a nice one. I have a lot of browns (added a couple this year), yellows, blue, purple and some mauve colored irises in the historic bed, and thought I needed some reds to complete the color spectrum. I probably should put some of my Beverly Sills in that bed too, but it's not really one of the dog eared irises. I'm not sure if there are any pinks that are.