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Dec 10, 2013 3:21 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
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Ahh, you know I really don't care, Drew. It's a pretty little miniature Aroid to me. Shrug!
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Dec 10, 2013 4:45 PM CST
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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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Two new Alocasia species and A. vietnamensis is an epiphyte!
, Elephant's Ear (Alocasia vietnamensis).

Nguyen V. D., Croat T. B., Luu H. T., Lee C. Y., Lee J. & de Kok R.: Two new species of Alocasia (Araceae, Colocasieae) from Vietnam. – Willdenowia 43: 293 – 299. December 2013. – ISSN 0511-9618; © 2013 BGBM Berlin-Dahlem.

http://dx.doi.org/10.3372/wi.4...
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Dec 10, 2013 7:29 PM CST
Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
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Pretty sweet Evan!

I looked at bullata a lot when I was attempting to ID the lil booger, I didn't think it was a close enough match, oh well, that's why lariann is such a great resource, thanks!
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Dec 11, 2013 4:36 PM CST
Name: Nancy or \"Hap\"
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Region: United Kingdom Charter ATP Member Dog Lover Region: Florida Tropicals



Here is my Borne giant of whom I am well pleased. Yes?

I got it at a plant deal thought Daves about a year ago... It was 3" tall. Boy did I baby him!!!!

Just FYI.

Thanks for looking..
What would you attempt to do if you knew you would not fail? ~~Dr. Robert Schuller
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Dec 11, 2013 10:10 PM CST
Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
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You think it's gunna start growin soon?
Rolling on the floor laughing

I wish I could get trunks like that here in 3 years
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Dec 12, 2013 10:42 AM CST
Name: Drew
Piedmont N.C. (Zone 7b)
I agree
Swayback said:You think it's gunna start growin soon?
Rolling on the floor laughing

I wish I could get trunks like that here in 3 years
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Dec 12, 2013 10:43 AM CST
Name: Drew
Piedmont N.C. (Zone 7b)
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Happy_1 said:



Here is my Borne giant of whom I am well pleased. Yes?

I got it at a plant deal thought Daves about a year ago... It was 3" tall. Boy did I baby him!!!!

Just FYI.

Thanks for looking..

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Dec 12, 2013 11:39 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
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It's a beauty, Hap. Great growing! If this winter stays warm you'll have another year to make it a real giant - I'll be able to see it from here by next fall.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Dec 12, 2013 3:32 PM CST
Name: Nancy or \"Hap\"
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Region: United Kingdom Charter ATP Member Dog Lover Region: Florida Tropicals
I hope so. Pardon my spelling of the Borneo Giant. I just hope it does as well this winter as last. Last winter was not even a winter for the tmps were beautiful all winter.
What would you attempt to do if you knew you would not fail? ~~Dr. Robert Schuller
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Dec 12, 2013 6:37 PM CST
Name: Drew
Piedmont N.C. (Zone 7b)
I would think some medium Frost cloth would do you right if it gets really cold, with some really hot buckets of water when the temps get to critical mass.
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Dec 12, 2013 7:15 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
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Way down there in Ft.Lauderdale there's probably enough retained heat from the ground to keep it toasty overnight.

Just tenting it so that the frost cloth goes down to the ground should be enough to keep it going. We're predicted to have a couple of cold days over Christmas week.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Dec 13, 2013 7:40 AM CST
Name: Nancy or \"Hap\"
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Region: United Kingdom Charter ATP Member Dog Lover Region: Florida Tropicals
Hi Elaine,

Two winters ago when it was so cold in Jan and Feb, I lost a lot of my coleus ands tender plants. If they didn't make it they were out of the garden for good. Don't replace anything that doesn't make it. Hope we have another winter like last year.
What would you attempt to do if you knew you would not fail? ~~Dr. Robert Schuller
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Dec 13, 2013 11:02 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
Amaryllis Tropicals Multi-Region Gardener Orchids Master Gardener: Florida Irises
Herbs Region: Florida Vegetable Grower Daylilies Birds Cat Lover
Yeah, I agree. Let's hope for a mild winter like last year! I lost a lot of the tender stuff those two cold winters as well. The diff then was that it got cold and stayed cold for two weeks, then did the same again, which made the ground cool off a lot. It's the only time ever that the cold water out of the taps actually ran cold! (pipes are underground - you can get ground temps from the tap water temperature)

This winter, even if we get cold days and really cold nights, the ground hasn't cooled off much at all, so there is still a lot of retained heat. When you throw a sheet or blankie over a plant, you trap that heat rising from the ground, keeping the whole plant warm. Even just a few degrees is enough where you and I live, since the cold temps usually only last a few hours at most.

Temp of the Gulf water makes a difference on this side of the state. Even after a cold front when the wind is blowing from the NW for a day or two, if it's blowing across 70deg. water it's much warmer - less damaging than when the water's down in the 50's. Over where you are, you get the wind blowing across the land which always moderates your temps a bit, too.

There's hope!
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Dec 13, 2013 3:31 PM CST
Name: Drew
Piedmont N.C. (Zone 7b)
We experience the same type temperature difference on a much smaller scale with Lake Norman surrounding us between two coves. The Nuclear Power plant is quite a water warmer in itself.... As the crow flies the discharge pipes are only a couple of hundred yards away.
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Dec 13, 2013 7:22 PM CST
Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
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Fun...

I'm not saying that I'd take the trade off, but a massive water heater like that would really be awesome!
Please tree mail me for trades, I'm ALWAYS actively looking for more new plants, and love to trade!
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Dec 14, 2013 6:24 AM CST
Name: Nancy or \"Hap\"
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Region: United Kingdom Charter ATP Member Dog Lover Region: Florida Tropicals
What does all that heat do to the marine life? Can't be good.
What would you attempt to do if you knew you would not fail? ~~Dr. Robert Schuller
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Dec 14, 2013 9:38 AM CST
Kentucky 😔 (Zone 6a)
Cactus and Succulents Region: Kentucky Moon Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Tropicals Plant Identifier
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Certainly not...
Please tree mail me for trades, I'm ALWAYS actively looking for more new plants, and love to trade!
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Dec 14, 2013 10:28 AM CST
Name: Nancy or \"Hap\"
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Region: United Kingdom Charter ATP Member Dog Lover Region: Florida Tropicals
In the winter our manatees flock to the warm waters of our plant. They are sure funny looking creatures.
What would you attempt to do if you knew you would not fail? ~~Dr. Robert Schuller
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Dec 14, 2013 10:52 AM CST
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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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A number of years ago I spent a few days in Crystal River and went for a swim. While near a little island off shore I saw several boats and a bunch of people snorkeling. I was told the manatees like the warm water flowing from natural springs and there are many areas that get "fenced" off so boats stay out. They're the cutest funny looking critters I've seen. You have to watch out because they sneek up on you looking for a back scratch.
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Dec 14, 2013 6:30 PM CST
Name: Drew
Piedmont N.C. (Zone 7b)
If we have a really hot Summer with little rain… it can be a problem! Water can be in the low 90's the first fathom or so! The lake is pretty deep and long though. We have had one bad fish kill (Stripers) in the 23 yrs. we have been here. In the Winter, that depth is normally around 62-65 degrees. The power plant and dam are at the Southern most (where we live) part of the lake. Cold water runs down from the Smokies so the Northern part of the lake, so it is much cooler. It is really neat how we have a small, quite noticeable little 1/2 zone of protection. Always warmer here in the Fall and colder in the late Spring.

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