The little coneflower that showed up last year has preformed beautifully this year
Love the color change and multi petals

I am thinking of saving seeds to see what it produces.

I love your beautiful and unusual coneflower! Did it continue to perform well? If this were at a nursery, I'd definitely buy it!🙂

gardengus said:




The little coneflower that showed up last year has preformed beautifully this year
Love the color change and multi petals

I am thinking of saving seeds to see what it produces.

Frillylily said:http://garden.org/plants/view/186023/Coneflower-Echinacea-Cheyenne-Spirit/

I bought some of these today and I guess I am confused. It appears to have different colored flowers on the same plant? Or is there more than one plant growing really close together in the pot with it? I am wondering if these really really really do come back every year? And do they spread by seeds to make new plants?

I am a few years late here, but I do have a single health plant that sends up on stock of white. Unless it is a pure Echinacea purpurea, hybrids and such have been know to revert back to their original colors.

Max.

Does anyone save seed? Will they all be different?

I don't save seeds , mostly the birds get them, but I do have volunteers come up
Mostly they are the normal purple , they seem to be the most vigorous
but sometimes the Cheyenne spirit throws a new color.

I have tried some of the newer puffy type but the don't come back for me.

I have some seed saved from my Cheyenne Spirit, which is an all yellow one. I'm germinating them now. It will be interesting to see if it will be the same color.

I save some seeds, the plants as a result are often a mixture of tall, short, medium, but the blooms are pretty similar to the parent plants most of the time with some variation.

Y'all take a look at this weird echinacea. It was just tagged coneflower. Any idea what variety it is, or why all the blooms are so different?

Lynda is it all one plant , many times with seed varieties like Cheyenne Spirit they start more then one seed together. Quilled petals are not that uncommon with echinacea and the bottom one just looks deformed. Many of the orange ones fade from orange to yellow to a dull white.


As far as seed if they came from a seed variety it depends what pollinated it , if 2 of the same color you should get some that color but most will be a pink to purple. With tissue culture even if both plants are the same it is very unlikely you will get any that look like them. In all the years I have been growing them I have had only a few come up as doubles. Color mix would be about 80% pink or purple the rest whites, orange, and reds with only a couple of yellows.

Bob, I've been reading about the Cheyenne Spirit, and I've seen them have many different colors in one pot. I understand how they are several seeds in one pot. Why didn't I check this one before I planted this one? Oh, duh!
Gob smacked. Well, I'm going to go look closer. I agree, that one bloom looks deformed. Did you notice that the bright colored bloom doesn't seem to be quilled? More evidence to prove it was most likely several seeds crammed into one pot. The one Cheyenne Spirit I have is all yellow, I was wanting a yellow anyway, now I've got it! Thanks for your explanation. Here's a pic of the Cheyenne Spirit, I couldn't load it the other day.

Very pretty.

Thank you! I've saved seed from this one, Ill be germinating it this fall, they do better here done in the fall.

I'm glad NiceGuyMax restarted this thread. I haven't been having much luck with coneflowers past few years. My first one & favorite was Big Sky 'Sundown" which bloomed for 4 yrs & 5th yr never returned. I've given up on the yellows, Now Cheesier & Sombrero Sandy Yellow which didn't make it thru the winter. I have a pile of tags & have started labeling the coneflowers. Could this one be Echinacea purpurea Ruby Star? Tag shows height 36-39." This one is topping at 4'!

It does look like Ruby Star. I always find the yellows are the hardest to grow. I think it is because they come from E. paradoxa which comes from dry native conditions and I think has problems in areas with wet Winters. They also have deep tap roots that need time to grow. .

Well, my mystery echinacea has turned out to be a Cheyenne Spirit, one of those where three or four seedlings are crammed in one pot. I have a pale yellow bloom, a light orange orange bloom with quilled petals And a deep orange bloom, almost red.

CS are pretty good plants , you get lots of colors without the high price of many of the tissue culture ones.

Bob- Will see if I can find Cheyenne Spirit. I'm tiring of paying high prices for my "one-yr" varieties. I'll try to be more vigilant this winter checking for low spots where water may be standing near my coneflowers. DH is constantly mixing in sand in our soil.

Oh oh, I just bought some white cone flower seeds. I like a white and blue border for my roses.

Coneflowers are easy to grow from seed.