@RickCorey, I am on omeprezol from the doctor. That does help but I still have to avoid acid. A friend of mine told me to drink aloe vera juice as it cured her collitus but I can't get past the taste and the weird way it makes me feel. I would definitely try a yellow tomato. I also can't eat the seeds.

Finally id'd my tomatoes. There were plastic markers that came with the plants and I actually did have the plants marked.
Only have 4 different kinds,
for the pear tomatoes I planted San Marzano Gigante 3 and Jersey Devil

The other two tomatoes I planted were Fantastic, an early variety and Buffalo Steak, a larger, later variety.

We ate some of the Fantastic last night and they have a very good flavor and nice and juicy, despite the drought. Don't seem to be a heavy yielder though but maybe that is weather related.

Hemlady said:Finally id'd my tomatoes. There were plastic markers that came with the plants and I actually did have the plants marked.
Only have 4 different kinds,
for the pear tomatoes I planted San Marzano Gigante 3 and Jersey Devil

The other two tomatoes I planted were Fantastic, an early variety and Buffalo Steak, a larger, later variety.

We ate some of the Fantastic last night and they have a very good flavor and nice and juicy, despite the drought. Don't seem to be a heavy yielder though but maybe that is weather related.

On Cindy, that is so good that you got your tomato plants figured out.

I have a package of seeds here... "Tomato Salad Sweet" Burpee signature "Sweet grape type tomatoes"

If I wanted to track this kind in the database here... There are a couple 'salad' entries, but none say 'sweet salad'. I don't know if that's a specific name for this type or how I should classify this.

thanks!

And look, my first ripe tomato!!

First is always the most exciting.

It might need a new data entry.

Newyorkrita said:

First is always the most exciting.

It might need a new data entry.

Agreed.

I'm hesitant to make a new entry because I don't think anyone can even get these now. I've been searching around and burpee doesn't sell these seeds now... the closest I got to finding any mention of them was another garden forum where someone else was posting pictures that look just like my tomatoes saying "These are from burpee called a signature 'sweet salad' but they are much bigger than the 'sweet cherry like' tomatoes in the picture on the package. They are huge with a little pointed tip!" I read that and thought OMG, I could've posted that!! It was from 2008, and it is very possible these seeds are from 2008 too. It was an old envelope I had around the house that I wasn't even going to use but my daughter did.

I found this "Tomato Sweet Salad Hybrid" on the Home Depot site; but it isn't clear to me if that is an actual cultivar name or more of a description, either. You could suggest it as a data entry, Robyn; there are plenty of varieties in the DB that are no longer available.

Weedwhacker said:I found this "Tomato Sweet Salad Hybrid" on the Home Depot site; but it isn't clear to me if that is an actual cultivar name or more of a description, either. You could suggest it as a data entry, Robyn; there are plenty of varieties in the DB that are no longer available.

That does sound like a similar description. I'm sure they could've changed the packaging over the years. The picture looks like the picture on the seed packet that I have (neither look like the actual tomatoes, BTW, note the little point on the end of these.)



Eh, I'll suggest one, see what they say. Worst case, they say no.

Burpee changes names just to confuse things!!

Newyorkrita said:Burpee changes names just to confuse things!!

I agree!

If you add it to the database, consider adding a note along with description and photo.

You might mention in the note that the name was what Burpee called it. If they did put a lot # next to the "packed for" date, it would be very classy to add that. Then your entry would have as much information as possible, like adding a new accession to a professional seed bank.

The source, the grower's ID, and the year. Parents if you know them. After that, you can't record more information than Burpee gave you.

But if you want to test Burpee's professionalism, email them and ask what the parentage of that lot was, "because you liked it so much you want want to order it again". If you do that with Botanical Interests seeds, you're likely to get a detailed reply from a professional botanist, loaded with real info. I'm guessing that Burpee won't say much more than "exclusive" and "best tasting highest yield most popular easiest to grow perfect for every use and every climate", like so many of their offerings.

(sarcasm towards Burpees)

My guess is, those were aging left-over seeds that weren't selling under their real name, so Burpee printed 100,000 new packets, made up a sales-y name, and filled them with "whatever" and marketed them through Wal-Mart and HD.

But I'm cynical about any seed catalog that lists seeds without clearly stating a recognized cultivar name and "F1 Hybrid" or "OP variety". The only reason not to do that is to frustrate seed savers (or sell no-name seeds that you won't be able to re-order, trade, or compare with other people growing the same thing).

(Well, adventurous full-disclosure breeders may say something like "this is an exclusive F7 partly-stabilized selection from a cross between ... ... ..., selected for ... ... ... " Check out the Roughwood Seed Collection.)

http://williamwoysweaver.com/r...
http://www.roughwoodseeds.org/
http://www.rareseeds.com/willi...

RickCorey said:If you add it to the database, consider adding a note along with description and photo.

You might mention in the note that the name was what Burpee called it. If they did put a lot # next to the "packed for" date, it would be very classy to add that. Then your entry would have as much information as possible, like adding a new accession to a professional seed bank.

The source, the grower's ID, and the year. Parents if you know them. After that, you can't record more information than Burpee gave you.

But if you want to test Burpee's professionalism, email them and ask what the parentage of that lot was, "because you liked it so much you want want to order it again". If you do that with Botanical Interests seeds, you're likely to get a detailed reply from a professional botanist, loaded with real info. I'm guessing that Burpee won't say much more than "exclusive" and "best tasting highest yield most popular easiest to grow perfect for every use and every climate", like so many of their offerings.

(sarcasm towards Burpees)

My guess is, those were aging left-over seeds that weren't selling under their real name, so Burpee printed 100,000 new packets, made up a sales-y name, and filled them with "whatever" and marketed them through Wal-Mart and HD.

But I'm cynical about any seed catalog that lists seeds without clearly stating a recognized cultivar name and "F1 Hybrid" or "OP variety". The only reason not to do that is to frustrate seed savers (or sell no-name seeds that you won't be able to re-order, trade, or compare with other people growing the same thing).

(Well, adventurous full-disclosure breeders may say something like "this is an exclusive F7 partly-stabilized selection from a cross between ... ... ..., selected for ... ... ... " Check out the Roughwood Seed Collection.)

http://williamwoysweaver.com/r...
http://www.roughwoodseeds.org/
http://www.rareseeds.com/willi...

Unfortunately, I already put in the new entry request, but I'd be happy to add all that. The package says packed for 2008, lot 1. Origin France.

Here are the pictures. . I'm not sure how to add them to the database entry.





It's too bad, really, because they are really great tomatoes.

Robyn, after the record is added to the database, you can add things to it.

If you page down to almost the bottom of the database entry, you'll see this:

Adding Actions:

» Upload a photo
» Post a comment
» Add an event report
» File a local report

If you click "upload a photo", you can attach a photo to the database record just like you attached them to a forum post, above.

And you could add a comment like how it tastes, how big the yield was, and how annoying it was to find a variety you like, and then can't grow it again because Burpee uses no-name names!

From France ... interesting. They do come up with some gourmet tomato varieties, like Jaune Flammee. ("Yellow Flame")
Tomato (Solanum lycopersicum 'Jaune Flammee')

Maybe it has a FRENCH-sounding variety name and that hurt sales.
Maybe there WOULD be some point to asking Burpee what the "real" name was!

Yeah, got it down to a $1.00 per tomato! Don't pay any attention to the red one!

crawgarden said:Yeah, got it down to a $1.00 per tomato! Don't pay any attention to the red one!

Beautiful tomatoes.

Thanks!

So... RJ ... what variety ARE those tomatoes?

(heck, only $1 per tomato? what a bargain! ) (some would say better to not do the math!)

Weedwhacker said:So... RJ ... what variety ARE those tomatoes?

(heck, only $1 per tomato? what a bargain! ) (some would say better to not do the math!)

Berkeley Pink Tye-Dye, great flavor, it started out at $8.00 per tomato! : )

Burpee replied back to my request for the official cultivar name by telling me they didn't understand my question and that they don't sell things with 'hidden' names.