I sure understand that, Rick. If I can drag a kid to the garden, all the better. We don't have any neighbors close, so that's out. But visitors get dragged. My granddaughter of course, when she's here. My inspector lives almost 100 miles away, and doesn't have other places to visit close by, so the last time he came out he brought his little son, about 6 years old. What fun we had. Nothing better than being in the garden with kids.