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Nov 2, 2015 7:40 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
Annuals Native Plants and Wildflowers Keeps Horses Dog Lover Daylilies Region: Canadian
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I wasn't on ATP for that earlier discussion of rust but I can clarify here a few points from Michelle's quote that Gleni re-posted above:

Yes, copper fungicides were tested on daylily rust a number of years ago, the paper is listed on my daylily rust info site's research articles page (Toxicity of Fungicides to Urediniospores of Six Rust Fungi by That Occur on Ornamental Crops by Mueller) but to quote a bit of it here:

The strobilurin (azoxystrobin and trifloxystrobin), broad-spectrum protectant (chlorothalonil and mancozeb), and inorganic copper (copper sulfate pentahydrate) fungicides were fungicidal to urediniospores of the six rust fungi. However, the benzimidazole (thiophanate-methyl), dicarboximide (iprodione), hydroxyanilide (fenhexamid), and demethylation-inhibiting (myclobutanil, propiconazole, triadimefon, and triflumizole) fungicides were only fungistatic to rust urediniospores.

Available directly here: http://apsjournals.apsnet.org/...

I don't know where Michelle heard that the spores can travel 60 miles in the wind - rust spores typically do travel on the wind, often even further than this depending on the specific rust or it may be less, but there's been no research to determine how far daylily rust spores specifically can travel.

The term "curative" can be misleading - what it means is
"Early-infection activity: occurs when the active ingredient of a fungicide can
penetrate the plant and stop the pathogen in the plant tissues, usually most
effective 24 to 72 hours after infection occurs , depending on the fungicide .
This type of activity is sometimes referred to as “curative” or “kickback”
activity . Most fungicides that have early-infection activity also have preven-
tative activity and are most effective when applied before infection occurs."

From: http://soybeanresearchinfo.com...

Quote from the earlier post: "From what I understand is rust spores need an opening in the foliage to get in so I would suggest actually spraying with some type of contact fungicide even if the person doesn't want to use any other chemicals so the spores that hide in the mulch or anywhere for that matter will be killed. Especially since you just given rust the biggest opening to get in when you cut the foliage."

Daylily rust spores have been shown to enter the plant through the stomata (pores) in the leaf, see:
http://web.ncf.ca/ah748/diagra...

Also quoting from the earlier post: " I have heard that Dawn soap acts as a contact fungicide (I think from Mark Carpenter) but I can't vouch for that. I use Dawn anyway as a spreader/sticker when I spray. It needs to be the regular or I guess they still call it Original Dawn, not the kind that is anti-bacterial or has bleach or other stuff."

The effectiveness of Ultra Dawn dishwashing liquid was discovered during research into daylily rust at the University of Guelph eleven years or so ago, see: Hsiang, T., Cook, S., Zhao, Y. 2004. Studies on Biology and Control of Daylily Rust in Canada. The Daylily Journal, American Hemerocallis Society 59: 47-57.:
http://www.uoguelph.ca/%7Ethsi...

Pretty much a given that I'll put my two cents in on my favourite topics of rust, spring sickness and seeds (if I notice the thread) Hilarious!
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Nov 2, 2015 8:00 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
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Hello, Crikey, my friend. Good to see you again. Lovey dubby

Oh gosh, too many favorites to single out any others...sigh...they are so beautiful. I tip my hat to you.
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Nov 2, 2015 12:29 PM CST
Name: Vickie
southern Indiana (Zone 6b)
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Wow Glen, it's hard to believe that you are already getting 'last blooms' (Ash Rosie). Hopefully you have some reblooms coming on Thumbs up
May all your weeds be wildflowers. ~Author Unknown
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Nov 2, 2015 2:31 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
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Sue, many many thanks.
The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Nov 2, 2015 8:29 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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Hemlady said:Crikey Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up


I agree and the little violet ground cover.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Nov 2, 2015 9:23 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
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Vickie I haven't had Ash Rosie rebloom yet. But, usually with fertiliser and water, most rebloom (touch wood). But while I was looking at it this morning, I noticed five proliferations which I must grab and plant!

Della with her blooms in Tasmania will kick in next month too. That is down near Antarctica Whistling and her scapes are only now coming up.
The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Nov 2, 2015 11:57 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
(Lee Reinke X Rose F Kennedy) X Unk
Amaryllis Hybridizer Canning and food preservation Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Pollen collector Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plays in the sandbox Sedums Seed Starter
MOONLIT MASQUERADE
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I will do a summary next month of how all my Stout Medallists are performing. Preliminarily, they are very good performers in the beds.
The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Nov 2, 2015 11:59 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
(Lee Reinke X Rose F Kennedy) X Unk
Amaryllis Hybridizer Canning and food preservation Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Pollen collector Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plays in the sandbox Sedums Seed Starter
First bloom for the season




Others flowering today:

For The Day of the Dead, BELA LUGOSI
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DRAGON KING
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ALL THE MAGIC
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BILINGA. I don't seem to be able to photograph this bloom. Drives me bananas.
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FREEDOM'S HIGHWAY
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HAPPY APACHE
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MEAN JOE GREEN with spider
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I love crepes. Some people find them untidy - sort of all over the place. Not true.
TIFFANY GOLD
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JUST GORGEOUS. This also must have the hardest name to use as keywords to search for a daylily on the web. You soon learn that every thing in the known universe has something in it that is "Just gorgeous" to countless web dilettantes.
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CLEDA JONES with spider.
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GLOW MONSTER with papaya.
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I still haven't solved this one. It was sold to me as Lavender Blue Baby, which it isn't. When this was pointed out, the seller revised it to Kansas Kitten, which it also appears not to be. I have run into this before. The cultivars are planted in alphabetical order and the clumps can encroach or be undifferentiated when not in flower and mistakes happen when a fan is taken. So it is something beginning with K, L or M I would think.

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Nov 3, 2015 9:15 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Have to go with Mean Joe Green today, if only because of the name. Lovey dubby

Frustrating that even a seller can't identify his or her mistake. It is a good-looking bloom, though. Thumbs up
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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Nov 3, 2015 9:34 AM CST
Name: pam
gainesville fl (Zone 8b)
Bee Lover The WITWIT Badge Region: Ukraine Enjoys or suffers hot summers Pollen collector Native Plants and Wildflowers
Hydrangeas Hummingbirder Dragonflies Daylilies Butterflies Birds
All The Magic looking cool on a very humid day here.
If we dont get a cool snap soon, my beloved navels are not going to be sweet. To hot for Nov.
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Nov 3, 2015 10:22 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
(Lee Reinke X Rose F Kennedy) X Unk
Amaryllis Hybridizer Canning and food preservation Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Pollen collector Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plays in the sandbox Sedums Seed Starter
This was my daylily day last month. Eighteen friends came to see the garden, which also has many native plant. I am the large one in orange.

Food was every where. Good fun. I will delay it to the very last days of October next year to maximise the number of cultivars flowering.

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The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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Nov 3, 2015 10:23 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Good to see you again! Looks like everyone had a great time. Smiling
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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Nov 3, 2015 10:54 PM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Container Gardener
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Glen - I am looking at that first photo and see all those lovely daylilies blooming! Wow! They look fabulous! Sometimes taking photos of just the blooms doesn't do the plants justice as they look even better when viewing the entire clump!

The group shots look like y'all had a wonderful time. Sounded like a perfect day with good friends, food, and a beautiful surround garden in bloom! Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters, compared to what lies within us.
Garden Rooms and Becky's Budget Garden
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Nov 4, 2015 4:15 AM CST
Name: Jess Giddings
Dubbo
Hello from central nsw!!!
Just a little about myself- I live in Dubbo which is about 5 hrs inland from Sydney. Our climate is temperate, hot dry summers and cold frosty winters. We get roughly 24 inches of rain a year which is predominantly summer falls. I only have a small house block to create my "secret garden" including lilies, roses, oyster plants, iris, daffodils, agapanthas and much more.
I am in my 3rd wk of enjoying my daylilies. Glen kindly told me about this thread so I could share some pictures. We know what it's like to miss your daily fix of daylily. Enjoy!!
Bart Roberts- new addition this yr. Such a large heavy bloom that is lovely.
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Earl Barfield- one of the few dips I own and was one of my first purchases.
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Double Rosedale-another dip from my first order. Purchased from scott alexander, QLD
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Palace garden beauty- first bloom for this plant which didn't open properly. Such a shame.
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Parrot jungle- one of my favorites. Just a stunning flower.
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Mort Morss- recent purchase. First bloom. Stunned at how large it is.
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Nov 4, 2015 5:50 AM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Container Gardener
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Birds Ponds
Hi Jess! Welcome! to the Daylily Forum! Some beauties! (That last photo looks like you may have thrips - bug pest. Thrips love deep red and deep purple blooms.)
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters, compared to what lies within us.
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Nov 4, 2015 6:05 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
Daylilies Hybridizer Irises Butterflies Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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Welcome! Jess
Lighthouse Gardens
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Nov 4, 2015 7:51 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Lovely garden party you had Glen. Green Grin!

Welcome to ATP Jess! Welcome! Welcome! Welcome! Bart Roberts is stunning. Drooling
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Nov 4, 2015 8:03 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Hi, Jess. {{waving at you}} So glad Glen invited you to his party here. Big Grin

I like Bart Roberts best of the ones you posted. Thumbs up
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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Nov 4, 2015 2:10 PM CST
Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
Region: Canadian Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Tip Photographer Garden Ideas: Master Level I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
Morning Glories Critters Allowed Birds Houseplants Butterflies Garden Photography
Hi Jess Welcome!
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Nov 4, 2015 3:35 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
(Lee Reinke X Rose F Kennedy) X Unk
Amaryllis Hybridizer Canning and food preservation Lilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Orchids
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Pollen collector Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plays in the sandbox Sedums Seed Starter
Welcome! Welcome! Welcome! Jess. It is so good to see what you have powering along down in there in New South Wales.
The problem is that when you are young your life it is ruined by your parents. When you are older it is ruined by your children.
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