Wanted
Salanova lettuce
Cabbage
Broccoli

SCButtercup said:Wanted
Salanova lettuce
Cabbage
Broccoli

I definitely will have some broccoli ('Green Sprouting) and cabbage ('Golden Acre') seeds available! They came with a 'vault' of seeds that I purchased, but I don't have a lot of gardening space and they take up more space in my garden bed than I want to give to them, so I've decided not to grow them. (Mine are non-GMO.)

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong -- but I believe all vegetable seeds available to home gardeners are non-GMO.

The way I understand it, there are just a handful of crops that are GMO varieties - #1 is Corn, then alfalfa, cotton, canola, soybeans, squash, papaya, sugar beets. Supposedly it's only GMO alfalfa for animal feed and not for human consumption of sprouts, but I don't know if I trust that. Hmm... I think that's it.

Here's a list of GMO Foods -

http://www.newhealthguide.org/...

If you look at that list of GMO food, it looks like I forgot tomato, which it says wass the very first GMO food.

I am looking for seed of rock garden plants. Preferably ones that stay small and will grow in the same conditions as sempervivum.

NO GMO tomato variety is available to home gardeners.

If I were rich, I would offer a $10,000 reward to any website boasting that it only sells "non-GMO seeds" to home gardeners. If they can show me one GMO seed variety that they COULD sell without getting sheaves of paperwork signed by the recipient, or even identify ONE online seed vendor anywhere that sells GMO seeds in less than full pounds, they can have a $10,000 reward.

Admittedly, a site selling 50-pound bags of soybeans to farmers is selling GMO seeds, but I THOUGHT they still had to get contracts signed explicitly promising not to save or propagate the seeds.

Maye that will change now the the patents have expired for the first round of RoundUp-ready crops.

The fact that websites selling tiny packets of flower seeds all advertise "no GMO seeds" says volumes about how gullible or uninformed they think their target audience is.

If they are looking ahead a few decades and want to be able to say "GMO-Free for 20 years!!" after there ARE any GM seeds available to the home market, well and good for them.

Right now, it's like advertising that "non of our seed packets contain antimatter".
A welcome fact, yes, but not a surprising one or one that we need to be told in order to know.

I'm pretty sure that not even agribusnesses with enough lawyers to inspect the contracts can buy GMO tomato seed any more.

http://www.gmo-compass.org/eng...

>> In 1994, genetically modified tomatoes hit the market in the US as the first commercially available genetically modified crop. GM tomatoes have since disappeared.

>> tomatoes with delayed ripening have disappeared from the market after peaking in 1998. At this point, no genetically modified tomatoes are being grown commercially in North America or in Europe.

I may have missed this in all the threads but if just one person has a wish listed and I have just one packet to share, can I simply mark it for that person and include it in their baggie?

chelle said:I may have missed this in all the threads but if just one person has a wish listed and I have just one packet to share, can I simply mark it for that person and include it in their baggie?

I would say no. Just because someone does not have a plant on their wish list does not they mean don't want it. My wish list only says Hibiscus but I see a number of plants on other members lists that I plan on asking for. I consider a wish list as a list of plants that I am actively looking for. It does not mean I would not consider other plants that look interesting.

(I would suggest that you could offer it as a 'freebie' trade to that person, though, if you wanted...and see if they agree to it. But there may be others who want it that you could trade with if you so desire.)

Valleylynn, what conditions do sempervivum grow under? And by small do you mean height? Can they spread? What about reseeding? I may have some options but I'm afraid I don't know anything about sempervivum.

With Jay too...I made a wish list of what I would love to find but also have found many items from the trade that I want

DogsNDaylilies said:

(I would suggest that you could offer it as a 'freebie' trade to that person, though, if you wanted...and see if they agree to it. But there may be others who want it that you could trade with if you so desire.)

The problem with this is you are ( in a sense) starting trade before the swap officially starts, which would be unfair to the other traders who might be interested in those seeds.

chelle said:I may have missed this in all the threads but if just one person has a wish listed and I have just one packet to share, can I simply mark it for that person and include it in their baggie?

I was thinking along he same lines as you.

If someone took the trouble to list a cultivar in their Wish List, that makes it special.

I saw a few things and took a few notes ... if I find those in my stash and add them to my SWAP-HAVE list, I would kinda like to offer it first to the person who took the trouble to fill out a detailed wish list.

{ Edited to remove a suggestion for a Swap feature. }

We might also tempt a person to join a Swap (and offer many seeds) by giving them first call on one specific packet.

I know that I will dig for and add some packets just because one particular person requested that particular thing.

In some cases, it isn't just that they took the trouble to make up a public Wish List and keep it current. Sometimes the person Wishing is also a friend or someone like a Moderator whom I want to reward in any way I can. Often I wouldn't spend 10 minutes searching for and re-labelling a onesie-packet just to offer it to anyone who is quick with a mouse-click. But suppose Trish was looking for one special herb variety? If I knew I could designate it as FOR TRISH, I would dig, dig dig.

But I understand that often a goal is that a swap be "equally fair" in some sense, to every member. If that means that every member must have an equal chance at everything offered, that conflicts with a flag for "Give AtpMember7 first refusal on this pkt".

bxncbx said:Valleylynn, what conditions do sempervivum grow under? And by small do you mean height? Can they spread? What about reseeding? I may have some options but I'm afraid I don't know anything about sempervivum.

I grow hardy succulents and other plants in raised beds filled with sandy loam. Very fast draining, rarely water in the summer. We went without rain for almost 3 months this year, and temperatures into the high 90'sF.
The penstemon in this photo are the largest plants I had put into the beds. Most are smaller.

Valleylynn I'll have to do some research. Those conditions are not at all like what I experience so I need to check to see if what I have will work for you.

Since I am in the South zone 7 it is tricky to grow cabbage, a cold weather plant. Cabbage varieties that are said to do well in South Carolina are: Bravo, Market Prize, Rio Verde, Savoy Express, Tropic Giant (hybrid), Green Jewels (hybrid). Anyone in warm zone have any of these?

For Broccoli I am looking for the kind that forms a head. The kind that are said to do well in my zone are Packman, Premium Crop, Everest, Southern Comet. Of course I can try other varieties that people list, I will google them to see if they are compatible with my zone.

<~~~~wishing I hadn't mentioned the sempervivum seeds because that was one of the ones that really excited me so far

Thank you Elena.
I even grow some things that are not suppose to grow in those same conditions. Gentiana, lewesia, miniature iris, potentilla, and much more.

I am so sad that I did not save seed this year from many different types of plants, shade and sun. I could have traded them here. That will be my goal for next year.

I actually will have more semp seeds. I just need to finish bagging them.