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Dec 21, 2015 5:08 AM CST
Name: John
Kansas City,MO (Zone 6a)
Composter Region: Missouri Plays in the sandbox Enjoys or suffers cold winters
As you might guess, I'm a retired computer systems engineer and we engineers expect to get identical results for any given tests no matter how many times they are repeated. But this will be much more fun!! Imagine, I could repeat the same experiment and get different results every single time. What a concept! I could look at a bloom and wonder what surprises are in there.

Blessings
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Dec 21, 2015 5:36 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
Ooh John, You said the "R"(retired) word. I hope I can reach that one day. I'm making strong efforts to achieve it.

Once I'm establish I'll definitely do more crossings. I'll probably enjoy the blooms more than getting all the plants knocked up, but will mess around more when I have a higher inventory of certain ones. I know what I want to achieve and I'm taking those steps are aquire my own Frankenstein of a plant down the road. I'm also realizing what I want is going to take more than a few years to acheive. I'm up to the challenge though. It would be nice to have at least one plant with my First initial, Last name and year next to it.

I know others are doing this in every city, every state, every country as well year by year. Will all due respect I also understand POSSBLY why Brad does this just for fun. It'll be fun definately, but we must remember how many of these are being produced and crossed. Uniqueness is the key. I've seen a lot of garbage sneak thru too, which I won't settle for. I can pollinate 100 of the same 2 plants and get thousands of different plants. That, I plan to explore through time and hopefully acheive that one diamond in the rough. I just want ONE though, my own. Maybe in 2075 it'll be considered a historic Rolling on the floor laughing
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Dec 24, 2015 7:30 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
Lucy @irisarian brought up a point about height and classification in the honoring thread.
Q: when measuring a iris's height, where do you exactly start and end? I have a MAJOR chuck of noIDs I need to measured come spring.

Ps. It's POURING outside again Sighing!
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Dec 24, 2015 3:18 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Yardstick has one end on the ground & measure to the top part of the terminal bud. some of them vary from year to year, but you can get the idea.
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Dec 26, 2015 2:02 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Birds Bulbs Region: California Dragonflies Foliage Fan Irises
Keeper of Poultry Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Someone told me to measure several stalks and average the heights. I started doing it with just the NOID's, but now make note of all of them. That way i can tell if overall, they bloom consistent, or shorter/taller, than the registered height in my garden. I can also monitor different areas of the garden for consistency as well.

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Dec 26, 2015 3:18 PM CST
Name: John
Kansas City,MO (Zone 6a)
Composter Region: Missouri Plays in the sandbox Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Gabriel - Did your potted iris come thru the storms OK? You last mentioned that they got a bit of flooding from a downspout. NWS just posted an ice storm watch for us early next week. As I remember, you are downrange from us with weather.

I have my pots against a SW facing wall under the eve of the roof so they are fairly well protected. No signs of increases yet but three of them have a little green 'pointy' right smack in the middle of the old fan.

Hope you had a blessed Christmas.
When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' Theodore Roosevelt
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Jan 1, 2016 10:36 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
Never saw you posted John, Lucy, and Sherry. I will take great note this season then.

They're doing just great. I did toss one today due to rot, but it was one of my tiny rhizomes from a old mother. It was inevitable I think.
They're exposed to light most the day thru sunset. There's gonna be some partial shade for them ones the huge oak leaves up again, but too much shade shouldn't be an issue. They're doing exceptionally well I think. All my late iris sister buys are finally showing slow, but decent increas. A lot of the eyes or babies are leafing out now. They were really prepped pots very very good drainage. Also, rain drops from branches seemed to perfectly land on some pots. The only issue is we had over 12 inches of rain in a few days and the soil really settled. I mean REALLY settled, which brings me to my next question.

Should I just sprinkle more mix(soil) over my rhizomes? A good amount of newer ones have gained roots on increases and I can see some reaching literally to the sky or coiling over the baby rhizomes.

One thing for sure is I need to master the planting depth. I just always fear covering the babies or burying them and rotting them out. I try the 1/3 rhizome exposed, but always end up adding more dirt.
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Jan 2, 2016 3:25 AM CST
Name: John
Kansas City,MO (Zone 6a)
Composter Region: Missouri Plays in the sandbox Enjoys or suffers cold winters
That's great, glad to hear they are doing so good. When I potted mine I made sure the dirt was slightly higher that the edge of the pot for drainage. I've got them against the front of my house facing SW so they get afternoon sun. They are under the roof eve which sticks out a pretty good distance so they are sheltered. I have a few showing signs of life but none of them are showings signs of death.

I'll leave the sprinkling question to our pot experts, this is my first year too so I am clueless. But I can say that I've had this happen with a couple of the ones in the ground and I leave them alone. I have one that is totally out of the ground. This one is my 'experiment' I mentioned last Fall when I asked how long can you leave a rhizome unplanted.

Thanks for getting back to me and Blessings to you and yours.
When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' Theodore Roosevelt
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Jan 2, 2016 11:01 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
I have never potted iris over the winter, so I am not much help there.
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Jan 2, 2016 11:11 AM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
When I've had overwintering pots lose volume in potting media in winter I have replaced the soil with fine mulch. I kept the rhizome exposed but covered any roots that were showing. My thought was using something airy and light would be safer. I would also have considered using sand if I'd had it on hand. Typically that was replacing soil that washed out from the top during heavy rain, so I could just add mulch to the top. In some cases the media just decomposed and the iris was sitting lower in the pot. Then I removed the root ball and added soil to the bottom of the pot and brought the rhizome back up to the surface of the pot.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Jan 2, 2016 11:21 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Roots need to be covered & the rhizome just where the roots attach.
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Jan 2, 2016 2:26 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
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Thank You!
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Jan 2, 2016 5:54 PM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Wonder if perlite would work? Very light and airy.
• “Whoever said, ‘Do something right and you won’t have to do it again’ never weeded a garden.” – Anonymous
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Jan 2, 2016 7:32 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
To help stop the soil from draining out of the holes, I put a handful (or more) of wood chips on the bottom of every pot.
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Jan 2, 2016 7:56 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
I would, but I fear random termites in the section I have them. I used perlite, peat, soil and a good amount of sand. I think it was loss and also became compact.
My girlfriend just told me she tipped a ton of pots over that were submerged. She said she felt bad seeing them drowing in all the rain, that i was lucky she even went out during the thunder to check Rolling on the floor laughing Lovey dubby
The soil to touch is semi spongey. Mother nature was just gonna have her way no matter what I guess. I also found a very very smelly Restless Heart rhizome Grumbling
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Jan 2, 2016 8:05 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
We have termites here too and I have on occasion found subterranean termites in my pots. When I plant the plants (or in this case the irises) I often remove the wood chips that are stuck on the bottom of the root ball.

That was very nice of your girlfriend....she's a keeper! Thumbs up Sorry to hear you are already experiencing some rot issues. Sad
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Jan 2, 2016 8:10 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Yep, she is a good'un if she is that thoughtful on your behalf. Smiling

Can probably help you with Restless Heart if you lose it. Seems to be weathering the rains pretty well. Just let me know.
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Jan 2, 2016 8:23 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
No worries, got it during the auctions. I have 3 or 5 monsters. I'm goin surgical tomorrow also. It feels so personal though
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Jan 2, 2016 9:39 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Okay.

Yes, it does. How do we get attached, and so quickly? Smiling
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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Jan 3, 2016 5:49 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
Some hybridizers in their crosses use "unknowns" ex. DroolFactor((Chocolate×lasangna)× (unknown)) Drooling

Can you do that? Is it just because we the people don't have all the hybridizers notes?

I don't wanna create a questionable noID blend or mixed with a named and it not be valid. Can I do this?
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