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Nov 4, 2016 7:50 PM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
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Thank you Hetty for the info. That is true, I think I might think of the PSA registration on some of the really good seedling's bloom.
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Nov 5, 2016 4:54 AM CST
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James, any seedling of a Plumeria rubra is a unique cultivar. So you can name and register it as long as it's sufficiently distinctive from any already existing cultivars.
It is discouraged to try and name/register a flower of which you are not sure where it came from; it may already exist under a different name elsewhere.
The registration process is not difficult at all; I have registered 6 or 7 cultivars (I've lost track Whistling ).
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Nov 5, 2016 4:59 PM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
Florida (Zone 9b)
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Hetty, do you have to be a member of the PSA to be able to register a cultivar?
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Nov 6, 2016 4:55 AM CST
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Absolutely not.
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Nov 6, 2016 7:09 AM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
Florida (Zone 9b)
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That is good to know. Also I did check it out the registration is only $25 a year.
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Nov 6, 2016 7:25 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Gigi, I think the cost to register a seedling is $25, and once the registration is accepted, it is forever. There is a yearly membership fee to belong to the PSA, but as Hetty stated, being a member of the PSA doesn't affect your ability to register a plant.

You can even register a name but not the plant. That will prevent anyone else from using that particular name(s) while you are waiting for the prescribed three blooming cycles to occur before photographing and registering the plant(s). I have never done this, though I keep saying I will, but I think that Hetty may have done so. I am not sure about that. I know she has registered plants though.
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Nov 6, 2016 3:41 PM CST
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GigiPlumeria said:That is good to know. Also I did check it out the registration is only $25 a year.

That is the membership fee. Registration is $ 10.
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Nov 7, 2016 6:13 AM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
Florida (Zone 9b)
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Oops that's what I meant. Even the $25 membership fee appears to be reasonable.

Here is another seedling bloom, nowhere close in resemblance to its supposedly pod parent "Mountain Goddess", which has a dark pink coloration. This is seedling#2, the first seedling also has the same yellowish characteristics.

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Nov 12, 2016 7:47 AM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
Florida (Zone 9b)
Adeniums Roses Plumerias Orchids Miniature Gardening Hibiscus
Region: Florida Container Gardener Garden Photography Cactus and Succulents Butterflies Garden Ideas: Level 1
My Mountain Goddess seedling#2 bloom is looking good. I like that the flowers are huge and fragrant, good keeping quality too. This will be perfect for Leis.

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It seems to me that my lighter colored seedling's bloom are more fragrant than the darker ones...or maybe too early to tell in the first bloom.
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Nov 12, 2016 10:27 AM CST
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Gigi, it tends to be that way in general, in my experience.
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Nov 15, 2016 2:18 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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My walkway to the greenhouses looks so vacant now. Thirty plumeria that were taking up residency there are now gone. The Plumeria Patch (which in the summer looked more like a Plumeria Jungle) is so lean that you can see most of the brick wall again. I have a pile of going-dormant plumeria under a large oak that measures approximately 5'x4'x4'. That pile will have to be bagged at the end of the week. We are supposed to get near freezing weather Sunday morning and freezing weather Monday morning. All my seedlings, rooted cuttings, and mature plants that are potted will have to be brought in as well. I guess its time to build that greenhouse inside the garage.


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Nov 15, 2016 2:31 PM CST
Name: James
Anacortes, WA (Zone 8b)
(Heat zone - 1, Sunset zone - 5)
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Can't wait for my new babies to arrive Hurray! Hurray!

Thanks again, Ken. As always, amazing service I tip my hat to you.
I am not an early bird or a night owl--I am some form of permanently exhausted pigeon
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Nov 15, 2016 2:52 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Thank You! James.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Nov 17, 2016 2:00 PM CST
Name: James
Anacortes, WA (Zone 8b)
(Heat zone - 1, Sunset zone - 5)
Region: Pacific Northwest Plumerias Adeniums Tropicals Bromeliad Cactus and Succulents
Container Gardener Plant Identifier Plays in the sandbox Garden Procrastinator Garden Photography
My Plumeria came in today! Can't wait to get home! Matt messaged me and told me that I have a big box that came in. He asked what it was and I told him that he didn't want to know Whistling
I am not an early bird or a night owl--I am some form of permanently exhausted pigeon
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Nov 17, 2016 2:25 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Rolling on the floor laughing Hurray!
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Nov 21, 2016 9:08 PM CST
Name: James
Anacortes, WA (Zone 8b)
(Heat zone - 1, Sunset zone - 5)
Region: Pacific Northwest Plumerias Adeniums Tropicals Bromeliad Cactus and Succulents
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drdawg said:I just bagged up exactly three dozen large plumeria. No leaves and no soil. It took four of the large plastic contractor bags to hold them. The bags will be stashed in a guest walk-in closet. These plumeria won't see light or moisture until March.


When you bag up your plumeria do their roots dry up? Do the plumeria shrivel and dry slightly like a cutting would? I've never seen this process done.
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Nov 21, 2016 9:15 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
The roots are actually pretty dry before I even bag them, James. They have been stacked like a cord of wood under a large oak tree for a couple of weeks. The roots will dry more and there will be some dehydration of the stems over the 3+ months of dormancy. Typically, the stems won't shrivel nearly as much as a cutting would though.
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The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Nov 21, 2016 9:25 PM CST
Name: James
Anacortes, WA (Zone 8b)
(Heat zone - 1, Sunset zone - 5)
Region: Pacific Northwest Plumerias Adeniums Tropicals Bromeliad Cactus and Succulents
Container Gardener Plant Identifier Plays in the sandbox Garden Procrastinator Garden Photography
That's neat. So they're dried before even bagging. Thanks for clarifying.

The Scott Pratt that you sent me is shriveling and getting soft. All others are fairly firm and remain "normal", but just appear thirsty with dried out roots. I was unsure if that was normal or if the rest would do that as well with more time, if left unpotted. I've never dried a plumeria, not even a cutting.
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Nov 22, 2016 6:11 AM CST
Name: Gigi AdeniumPlumeria
Florida (Zone 9b)
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Region: Florida Container Gardener Garden Photography Cactus and Succulents Butterflies Garden Ideas: Level 1
James you can prevent total dehydration of the cuttings, you can mist it once in-a-while, just make sure that it will dry up before night end so it will not rot.
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Nov 22, 2016 7:07 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I spray my cuttings practically every day, at least when the temperature gets above 90F in the greenhouse.

James, Scott Pratt's stems and branches are really thin when they are young (compared to most plumeria varieties). It can be a challenge keeping them hydrated when they are cut and often when they are first rooted. If that plant (or any other) doesn't make it, please let me know. I can easily replace it/them in the spring.

I don't store my newly-rooted cuttings or seedlings in bags. I keep them potted and keep them lightly watered through the fall/winter months. They will either be in the garage greenhouse or in one of the permanent greenhouses. They won't go completely dormant, losing only some of the older, larger leaves during that time. They should continue growing, though more slowly than in the spring and summer months.
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