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Jan 19, 2016 6:55 PM CST
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
Chickasaw Sue Lovey dubby
Gimme it and I'll grow it!
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Jan 19, 2016 9:30 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
Rob -- I would love to have a rhizome from Wild Jasmine when she has enough to share. I'll have to rely on your memory -- I still have not been able to upload my Iris files to this new computer. Sad
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Jan 19, 2016 9:41 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
I'll add you name next to it too Mary Ann. Green Grin!
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Jan 19, 2016 9:56 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
djinnevada said:@Muddymitts -
Since I don't know about your tractor specifically, I'll ask the basic question first...is the battery dead? Or your alternator bad?


Hi Darcy. No -- the battery wasn't dead. It was worn down pretty good by the time I gave up starting the tractor, but it wasn't the problem.

And I couldn't tell you about the alternator. Ummmmm -- what's an alternator? Blinking

The problem, as I learned today, was the cold weather (which I suspected) which turned the diesel fuel into *gel* (which never would have occurred to me -- I didn't know that could happen). To make a very long, very frustrating story short -- I hooked up the battery charger on the battery, and drove into town to buy something called Power Source. The closest auto parts place did not have Power Source (which was recommended to me by the tractor dealer) -- and while I was contemplating which other anti-gel product to buy, another customer pointed to one on the shelf and said "I used that one and it did a great job". I thanked him and picked up the bottle that he recommended -- at which point he added "and I put an electric dipstick in the oil, and it started right up and I haven't had a problem since". Electric dipstick? The service manager at the dealership didn't say anything about an electric dipstick when I talked to him this morning. But I bought the dipstick -- I did not need to make another 40-mile round trip into town if the not-Power Source didn't do the job.

Got home, poured the anti-gel stuff into the fuel tank, replaced the non-electric dipstick with the electric one, patted the battery charger and went into the house to have lunch at 3:00 in the afternoon. When I went out an hour later, she started right up!! Green Grin!

Life is good again. And I am prepared for the snow that's headed our way tonight, tomorrow, Thursday and Friday. Sigh.............
Thoughts become things -- choose the good ones. (www.tut.com)
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Jan 19, 2016 9:57 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
Thanks Rob!! Smiling
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Jan 19, 2016 10:13 PM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
I remember my Dad always telling my husband and I to never let condensation get into the gas tank (in other words keep the gas tank on the fuller side).
• “Whoever said, ‘Do something right and you won’t have to do it again’ never weeded a garden.” – Anonymous
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Jan 19, 2016 11:25 PM CST
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
Irises Lilies Region: Idaho
tveguy3 said:Color Tart. I didn't like how the blooms didn't last long on this one.
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My blooms last a long time , both in Idaho and California. Wonder why?
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Jan 20, 2016 2:30 AM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Birds Bulbs Region: California Dragonflies Foliage Fan Irises
Keeper of Poultry Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Wow Tom, You're ruthless! I'm glad to have been the recipient of some of your throwaways.. I think you may have thrown away more than many of us have grown.
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Jan 20, 2016 3:24 AM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
Region: United States of America Region: Arkansas Master Gardener: Arkansas Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Moon Gardener
Garden Ideas: Master Level Dragonflies Bulbs Garden Art Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Gardens in Buckets
Shareaways. smiles
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Jan 20, 2016 6:06 AM CST
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Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Butterflies Vegetable Grower Keeper of Poultry Irises Keeps Horses Dog Lover
Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Wisconsin Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Well, I think I need to cull even deeper when I see all of the new ones on my wish list. Just gets harder to do as time passes. It surprises me when I go back and see all the ones I let go, or those that I didn't replace when they dumped me. Hilarious! I still have a few files of pics to go through yet to find others I've culled.
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Jan 20, 2016 8:47 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Muddymitts said:

Hi Darcy. No -- the battery wasn't dead. It was worn down pretty good by the time I gave up starting the tractor, but it wasn't the problem.

And I couldn't tell you about the alternator. Ummmmm -- what's an alternator? Blinking

The problem, as I learned today, was the cold weather (which I suspected) which turned the diesel fuel into *gel* (which never would have occurred to me -- I didn't know that could happen). To make a very long, very frustrating story short -- I hooked up the battery charger on the battery, and drove into town to buy something called Power Source. The closest auto parts place did not have Power Source (which was recommended to me by the tractor dealer) -- and while I was contemplating which other anti-gel product to buy, another customer pointed to one on the shelf and said "I used that one and it did a great job". I thanked him and picked up the bottle that he recommended -- at which point he added "and I put an electric dipstick in the oil, and it started right up and I haven't had a problem since". Electric dipstick? The service manager at the dealership didn't say anything about an electric dipstick when I talked to him this morning. But I bought the dipstick -- I did not need to make another 40-mile round trip into town if the not-Power Source didn't do the job.

Got home, poured the anti-gel stuff into the fuel tank, replaced the non-electric dipstick with the electric one, patted the battery charger and went into the house to have lunch at 3:00 in the afternoon. When I went out an hour later, she started right up!! Green Grin!

Life is good again. And I am prepared for the snow that's headed our way tonight, tomorrow, Thursday and Friday. Sigh.............


How cold has it been , there, MaryAnn ? Fuel shouldn't "gel" (even bio diesel) until the temps are in the zero (or even slightly below zero) area. I sent you a t mail. Block heaters, "electric" dip sticks, etc., are a 'good thing'....saves on wear & tear of the starter, and just make life generally easier, all the way around, but, down to the 20 degree range, it should start, totally "un aided".
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Jan 20, 2016 9:15 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
Temps in the single digits the night before, Arlyn.

Got your treemail and answered it. Smiling Afraid that I duplicated some of the information above -- sorry................ Whistling
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Jan 20, 2016 9:38 AM CST
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
I would love some that are posted. I'm not going to ask for any particular ones now due to being overwhelmed by what I already have. I am licking my chops at what your posting though Tom. Whistling

This has to be the craziest group on ATP and addiction EVER.
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Jan 20, 2016 10:33 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
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Jan 20, 2016 10:57 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Why ever would you think that Gabe? Angel

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Jan 20, 2016 11:02 AM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
The newsletter says it all- this is the chattiest and most enthusiastic forum for a good reason!
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Jan 20, 2016 11:07 AM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
Grandchildren are my greatest joy.
Annuals Enjoys or suffers cold winters Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Garden Procrastinator Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Plays in the sandbox
Tender Perennials Tomato Heads The WITWIT Badge Region: Utah Vegetable Grower Hybridizer
Hawaiian Rain....lovely flower but the weakest stems in the garden. Can't find a picture. Years ago I had one called Lawrence Welk which snaked all over the garden.....
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Jan 20, 2016 11:15 AM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Someone's trash is another treasure.
Someone's unwanted Iris = someone else's great fortune.
Thank you Tom for Hold My Hand, all all the others I received in the Tommy box. Rolling on the floor laughing Thumbs up
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Jan 20, 2016 11:16 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
gemini_sage said:The newsletter says it all- this is the chattiest and most enthusiastic forum for a good reason!


Speaking of that, did you notice that there is a thread complaining about all the pictures and such being iris and daylillies and how other flowers should be represented in the newsletter? The response was mostly that it is up to other groups to post more pictures and give thumbs ups.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jan 20, 2016 11:17 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I too appreciate the Tommy Box discards, such as White Hot. Such nice shareaways.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black

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