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Jan 21, 2016 8:42 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Muddymitts said:Arlyn and Tom -- can I pick your brains just a little bit more about the tractor stuff?

Tom -- you suggested a block heater. Arlyn also mentioned a block heater. I was especially interested in the magnetic one you mentioned, Tom.

So my question is this -- is there an advantage of the block heater over the electric dipstick? What I want most is NO PROBLEMS. When it's time for me to go out there and do my barnwork, I don't need any additional work in order to *get to* my work. See what I mean? So I'll get whatever I need to set myself up for problem-free.

Thanks for any advice.

Tom's correct...the "dip stick" heater (as well as the plastic pads you 'stick on" to the oil pan) warm the engine oil (and, by *heat transfer*help to warm the other engine components. A *block heater*, whether it's one that's installed into a 'freeze plug' on the engine block, or one that magnetically sticks to the outside of the engine, heats the engine block, and , the coolant inside the engine, and, again by *heat transfer*, the engine oil that's in the pan. Either of those would do a better job of *pre heating* the engine. The "freeze plug" installed type, would, IMHO, be the best (they actually have a heating element that's in direct contact with the engine coolant, and, in effect heat the engine block ,engine oil (by heat transfer) and also, through the circulation brought on by heating the coolant, the coolant in the radiator is heated, as well.
Downside to that type is your service man would need to install it ( not a big job...only takes a short time)as it's not something you would want to tackle yourself. You could have it done the next time you have the tractor in for service.
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Jan 21, 2016 9:11 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Sherry - is the seedling a perk of being Joe's neighbor? Sorry for the losses. I bet all the water after such a long drought is really playing havoc with the rhizomes.

We are going to have a small amount of snow tonight, followed by most of tomorrow day under freezing rain. Then snow is suppose to come back around on Saturday. Everyone is preparing for being without power around here. I will be avoiding the chaos of the grocery stores today, but wish I had some bread. May need to bake some tonight. Along with chicken and such to be eaten cold.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jan 21, 2016 10:52 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
Thanks Arlyn -- I appreciate your advice.

Leslie -- sorry to hear about the ugly weather heading your way. We're in for about the same thing, just a day earlier. Crying
Thoughts become things -- choose the good ones. (www.tut.com)
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Jan 21, 2016 11:40 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Hope your power stays on Mary Ann. And Gabe, and Bonnie......
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jan 21, 2016 2:22 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
Sorry for your losses Sherry.

To the rest of you....Stay safe and warm! Group hug
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Jan 21, 2016 2:54 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Safety wishes for all. We are on the upper edge predictions-I to 3 inches, no sweat. We had enough last year. I keep looking at the rhodendron branch which hits me at the top of my head. Resting on top of the snow last year.
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Jan 21, 2016 5:16 PM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
Region: United States of America Region: Arkansas Master Gardener: Arkansas Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Moon Gardener
Garden Ideas: Master Level Dragonflies Bulbs Garden Art Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Gardens in Buckets
Just a little coating of ice here so far. I hope that is all I get. The kittens are really confused. they have learned to climb the tool rack on the garden shed, jump from the top of that shed to the hickory tree and then up onto the house roof where they cavort in the early hours of the night sounding for all the world like 'haints'. Today it was climb, jump, climb, jump and.... whoosh, flying cats. The roof must be slick. Rolling on the floor laughing I should not laugh, that could be me.... except not from the roof anyway.
Thro' all the tumult and the strife I hear the music ringing; It finds an echo in my soul— How can I keep from singing?
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Jan 21, 2016 5:34 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
No, no, no! Definitely should be them, not you!!!! Blinking
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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Jan 21, 2016 6:25 PM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
Bonnie, don't you wish you had a trail cam on them! I can envision the antics though. Rolling on the floor laughing
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Jan 21, 2016 6:47 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Thank you for using the word 'haint'. We lose such good words in our language. You created quite the vivid image of your kitties. !! Hilarious!

Hope all is well with tornadoes in your area as well as the crazy cold weather.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jan 21, 2016 9:34 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
Kittens are hilarious! I'd love to watch them flying!!! Rolling on the floor laughing
Thoughts become things -- choose the good ones. (www.tut.com)
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Jan 21, 2016 11:06 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Best wishes to all in the track of the storms.
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Jan 21, 2016 11:09 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Birds Bulbs Region: California Dragonflies Foliage Fan Irises
Keeper of Poultry Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2015
tveguy3 said:It's always the ones you want most that seem to loose it. How did you come by one of his seedlings?

This is not a brand new seedling.. We have two club digs. One is at Joe's, and one is at a member's house who does some hybridizing. So I'm guessing Joe shared it with that member to help with his hybridizing.Someone handed it to me and said that I needed it Smiling I got a lot that day that were deemed too small for our sale. This was at the member's garden...
The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us.
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Jan 21, 2016 11:12 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
People in the know grow plants that would not be offered for sale. this is ISMs show year next year is sale to the public. We always have an auction of new introductions. That gets them into the members' gardens. Sooner or later they turn up in the sale.
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Jan 22, 2016 1:23 PM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a semi-retired studio potter.
Irises Hummingbirder Hellebores Organic Gardener Dog Lover Daylilies
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Bonnie - loved your kitties description!
There are so many more predators this year that I get a bit crazy
when my two cats haven't come in and it's getting dark! A new thing to worry about!
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Jan 22, 2016 5:57 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
My kitties stay inside. Too much of the worst predator out there - cars.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jan 22, 2016 6:08 PM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Kitty is an inside cat too. Leslie, How is your new kitty doing?
• “Whoever said, ‘Do something right and you won’t have to do it again’ never weeded a garden.” – Anonymous
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Jan 22, 2016 9:58 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Miss Felina and I were starting to bond.... then I had to trap her to take to the vet. She hasn't forgiven me yet but is getting pretty demanding for her breakfast. Such a silly girl.
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"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Jan 22, 2016 10:03 PM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
I'm sorry with the set back. I'm sure giving her time (and a hungry stomach) all will be forgiven. Group hug
• “Whoever said, ‘Do something right and you won’t have to do it again’ never weeded a garden.” – Anonymous
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Jan 23, 2016 5:29 AM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2
She's beautiful Leslie! Love that face!
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi

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