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May 28, 2016 6:37 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
Hello ladies and gents:
I put a post in the Iris section and thought I would have a look see.

Anyway; I have been planting potatoes for forty years, after watching dad for a couple of decades.
I am in Mn and have two gardens, one in slight acidic black-gumbo and the other in sandy clay.

I have tried every method using garden soil I have ever read.
No raised bed, bag etc. as I have no reason to.

My father and I both tried the laying on ground and covering with mulch. It is a back saver at harvest time but, for me yields were lower and the potatoes were smaller. I like french-fries so I like LARGE potatoes.
The past two years I have been burying deep (my dads standard was eight inches or the depth of a sand shovel) but even that deep you would have some popping out of the ground.
The past two years I have put them from twelve to fourteen inches down. Oddly I still had some pop out of the ground even though I also put about sixteen inches of leaves I had used to cover the roses in winter over the hills after planting.
I have never hilled potatoes because I have used mulch for years but dad used to do that .

I put about three yards of sheep manure on the garden every seven or so years, and in a hit-miss method, fertilize on occasion.
Last year I turned the manure in in the spring, after it sat on the garden all winter.
Out of approx., I never counted eighty hills, plus or minus a dozen, in the two gardens I got seven grocery store tote boxes very full.
I planted seven types of potatoes and a row or so of left overs from the year before.
I found that planting that deep, it will produce potatoes all the way to the bottom in abundance. I space plants and rows about sixteen inches apart as I loathe spiking when I dig but even at that I still sliced over a half-dozen in half when I dug them up. I dig with a shovel.
In the sandy clay I can dig them by hand if I want but in the black-gumbo it is work especially as we had a nice wet fall and black-gumbo is like digging in clay without the gummyness. I would dig one shovel depth and out came a few standard size potatoes but I thought that as I planted them deep to go down another shovel depth. The best way to describe what it is like digging in that dirt when it is a bit moist. The average dirt chunk was the size of a bowling ball with some fifty percent bigger. As this soil has been worked for seventy five years it has good spot and miserable spot to work with.
Anyway.
To even my amazement, the biggest were the deepest. Sometimes I would take a big clump of dirt, where there was no sign of containing a potato, drop it on the ground and out would roll three or four large potatoes.

Outside of when I broke fresh soil in the sandy-clay area, this was the best crop I ever had in forty years.

Sadly my family is now down to where half that would have been more than enough so I had three left over at planting time.
For the first time in my life I did not buy any potatoes for planting and after the garden was over full of new planting still had to toss a fair number into the compost bin.
I put whole potatoes in each hill, some very large and in a few put two or three small ones.

From my decades of experience I have found that deep planting with thick mulch on top works best. It keeps the ground moist in dry spells and reduces work, except for planting or digging, as far as taking care of them during the growing season.
I have planted several dozen varieties and the All-Blue ones were without a doubt the best tasting, while Victoria produced the greatest yield, even better than the normal standard Kennebec.
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May 28, 2016 6:44 PM CST
Name: Rita
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Welcome! Welcome!

Nice to read about your potato growing. Thumbs up
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May 28, 2016 7:41 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
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Welcome to Garden.org, @RpR !

I grow potatoes pretty much the same way you described and agree -- it IS a lot of work! And, as much as I love having my own new potatoes, and the German Butterballs and Red Gold potatoes that I've been growing, I've really started wondering if it's actually worth it, when potatoes are grown commercially here and are almost always pretty cheap to buy (like, 5 lb for 99 cents)... so, this year I decided to only grow a few for seed potatoes for next year; whether I plant them again or not will depend on how much I miss not having my own.

After gardening for about 40 years, I finally learned that when you plant potatoes, all of the potatoes that grow will be above the "seed potato." That was quite an "aha moment" for me!

Happy gardening! Smiling
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May 29, 2016 4:04 PM CST
Name: Linda
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Welcome @Rpr Welcome!

Loved to read about your experience growing potatoes. Sounds like you have an amazing method for a great harvest. I can't imagine digging down 12-14", as we have heavy clay soil here. Smart pots work well for the small amount I grow.

At our local farmers markets, new potatoes sell for $3-4 per pound. It makes it cost effective for me to grow even a small amount. Last year I started with about 2.5-3 pounds of seed potatoes, and had a harvest of 18 pounds. I'm happy with that for the small amount of work it takes.
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May 29, 2016 4:10 PM CST
Name: Shannon
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Welcome! @RPR Your way sounds good once we get the main garden going. Right now I have a potato bag with three
plants in it. Yesterday I added another 6" of soil and hopefully in a week two I can fill it to the top. These will be my first
real home grown taters Hurray!
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May 29, 2016 4:12 PM CST
Name: Linda
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Shannon said: Welcome! @RPR Your way sounds good once we get the main garden going. Right now I have a potato bag with three
plants in it. Yesterday I added another 6" of soil and hopefully in a week two I can fill it to the top. These will be my first
real home grown taters Hurray!


@Shannon--you will be addicted once you have harvested your first potatoes. I'm not sure why, but they just taste better. Maybe is it's the sweet taste of success????? Rolling on the floor laughing
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May 29, 2016 4:17 PM CST
Name: Shannon
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@mom2goldens Linda that's what we are hoping for. We grew carrots one year and they were amazing . Hopefully I
will be able to move all my plants out of the big garden next year . We want to be able to grow a lot to can and eat better

Do fresh potatoes last longer ?
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May 29, 2016 4:27 PM CST
Name: Linda
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It somewhat depends upon the variety. Some are known to be longer keepers than others. Also, I think I read that a lot of commercially grown potatoes have some thing they are treated with to prevent sprouting (not sure if this is valid or not).

My best advice is enjoy them while they are fresh!!
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May 29, 2016 4:45 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
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Shannon said:
Do fresh potatoes last longer ?


You need to let them "dry" if you want to store them for any length of time. I spread mine out on screens (suppported by sawhorses) in the garage for at least a couple of weeks, then put them into paper sacks (burlap or something would probably be better) and keep them on a shelf in the garage. You don't want to refrigerate them because the starch will turn to sugar and give them a weird flavor. And you don't want to leave them in the sun to dry because the skins will turn green and bitter. And if you store them without drying they will give off a lot of moisture and rot pretty quickly.
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May 29, 2016 4:49 PM CST
Name: Shannon
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@weedwhacker Thank you Sandy . I can use the screens I use to dry my Calla Lilies for winter . I don't think
I will get that many and being Irish I don't think they will last that long Whistling But, I want to do this right so
hopefully we will not need to buy any in a store one day Hurray!
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May 29, 2016 4:54 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
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You're welcome! I agree -- it's very satisfying to grow our own food and not have to buy it Thumbs up
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May 29, 2016 8:24 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
This site has some excellent information on potatoes and potato varieties.

http://kenoshapotato.com/
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May 30, 2016 9:53 AM CST
Name: Rita
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RpR said:This site has some excellent information on potatoes and potato varieties.

http://kenoshapotato.com/



Thank You! Welcome!
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May 30, 2016 10:19 AM CST
Name: Dillard Haley
Augusta Georgia (Zone 8a)
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Memorial day. Veggies coming fast and furious. Morning picking of squash ( Coronation, Daize, Gold Star) Bush beans have arrived, These are Bronco most productive variety I have grown to date.
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May 30, 2016 12:35 PM CST
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farmerdill said:Memorial day. Veggies coming fast and furious. Morning picking of squash ( Coronation, Daize, Gold Star) Bush beans have arrived, These are Bronco most productive variety I have grown to date.
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Drooling Excellent!! Thumbs up
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May 30, 2016 2:46 PM CST
Name: Shannon
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Great harvest Hurray!
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May 30, 2016 4:15 PM CST
Name: Linda
Carmel, IN (Zone 5b)
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Beautiful veggies, @Farmerdill
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Sep 17, 2016 10:21 AM CST
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Name: Jared Nicholes
Dietrich, Idaho (Zone 6a)
Hello!

Wow, I leave the forum for a couple months and come back and see 76 replies on my post! I am amazed! A lot of great information here! I haven't even read through all the comments yet!

Amazing!

Jared
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Sep 17, 2016 12:06 PM CST
Name: Linda
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Have you harvested any pototoes, Jared? Hope you had success!!
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Sep 17, 2016 7:48 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
I went down to my south garden to dig potatoes and also grabbed a book that would be handy but has no real secrets you cannot fine else where.
I bought it in 2011. It is The Complete Book of Potatoes written by two De Jongs and a Sieczka.

As I said it is not ground breaking but handy to have; it also contains some major potato varieties and their history and best uses.
Not too surprizingly, some of the potatoes listed are said to to be hard to find as they are not commercial types that most green houses and garden shops get, BUT, kinda-sorta strange, within two years of this book coming out, most of them were easy to find in online catalogs yet as of this spring , this is a bit odd, were very hard to impossible to find.
I planted oddballs for several years but saw ninety percent of the ones I planted disappear from catalogs this year.

I moved my potatoes to the side of the garden dad said never produced well, nor has it for me but after I put sheep manure I thought it might change.
At this point, a larger number of plants than those last year that gave me seven tote boxes looks like I will be fortuante to get three.
A few plants gave me five or six good sized potatoes but many gave me two potatoes and not really large ones, goose egg size.
I have only dug up one third, so the verdict is not yet in.

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