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Dec 19, 2016 10:08 AM CST
Name: Jean
Hot Springs Vlg, AR, DeLand, F
Daylilies Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Master Level
Any day you wake up on the sunny side of the grass is a good day.

"The moving hand writes and having writ moves on. Neither all thy piety nor all thy wit can lure it back to cancel half a line nor all thy tears wash out a word of it." The Rubiyat by Omar Khayyam
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Dec 19, 2016 10:14 AM CST
Name: Jean
Hot Springs Vlg, AR, DeLand, F
Daylilies Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Master Level
It was 12 degrees this morning when we got up and that is waaaaaay too cold for me! I'm glad we don't have to go anywhere today.
Any day you wake up on the sunny side of the grass is a good day.

"The moving hand writes and having writ moves on. Neither all thy piety nor all thy wit can lure it back to cancel half a line nor all thy tears wash out a word of it." The Rubiyat by Omar Khayyam
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Dec 19, 2016 10:24 AM CST
Name: Agavegirl1
South Sonoran Desert (Zone 9b)
Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Southwest Gardening Hummingbirder Dog Lover Critters Allowed
Container Gardener Garden Photography Cactus and Succulents Butterflies Bookworm Xeriscape
karen....

I'm surprised at you! I thought cleaning my oven was number one on your 'to do' list! I waited patiently but when you didn't show I had to do it myself after I cleaned the floor Sighing! Thanks a lot girlfriend!

Yah know, burnt cheese and flour is a rather interesting innovation. I think I'm going to turn the chemical world on its head once I patent it. Angel

---I've discovered it would make an most excellent replacement for epoxy glue.
---It is 'green' but not biodegradable.
---It is impervious to cleaning chemicals as it can not be destroyed.
---It adheres to metal, glass casserole dishes, plastic and lower cabinet doors (don't ask). I have proved this theory beyond a doubt as I have to clean the oven door and metal racks once again today. Angry

---I also found it is a great substitution for tile floor grout. It is stronger, binds better and unlike grout is far more difficult to chip away at despite vigorous scraping with a spatula and butter knife. Grumbling

---I'm sure if one were to master the exact ratio of cheese to Italian bread crumbs, scalded milk and over cooked noodles it would make an most excellent spackle or mortar or new type of plastic.
---It would also replace coal as a fossil fuel as this substance is just as compact and dense, burns far longer and has no CO2 emissions. Thumbs up

My recipe's only downfall is when ingested it must be followed immediately by two rather large glasses of Scotch to reverse its adverse effects. There's a most curious but pleasant side effect to this remedy.
The Scotch takes over immediately and the indigestible mac 'n cheese poisoning is rendered ineffective.
The Scotch acts as an agent to eliminate the foul taste and alters one's sense of reality and perception when ever you walk into the kitchen. Hurray! I tip my hat to you. I have yet to discover if vodka is as effective.

Now if only I can find a way to eliminate the burnt mac 'n cheese smell and reduce the amount of smoke when it burns and figure out how to recycle the waste I'll be a billionaire. nodding

See what you missed out on! If you were here to help clean out my oven, you could have taken half the credit and royalties for these discoveries.


As for socks we forgot to mention one of my all time favorites...cashmere!
To boldly grow where no man has lawn before.
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Dec 19, 2016 10:25 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I am so sorry you lost Sugar, Katie. Group hug I hope you are feeling better by Christmas. No day is a good day to feel bad, but Christmas is a day for joy.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Dec 19, 2016 10:28 AM CST
Name: Agavegirl1
South Sonoran Desert (Zone 9b)
Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Southwest Gardening Hummingbirder Dog Lover Critters Allowed
Container Gardener Garden Photography Cactus and Succulents Butterflies Bookworm Xeriscape
Katie......your post came in while I was typing. I am truly so sorry you lost your beloved sugar. Group hug Sad .

Please feel better also.

Oh...if you read the above please wait to finish the floor. I will send you some burnt mac 'n cheese to complete it and a Scotch chaser bottle should you accidentally ingest it!
To boldly grow where no man has lawn before.
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Dec 19, 2016 11:18 AM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
Bookworm Dragonflies Garden Art Region: North Carolina Plays in the sandbox Deer
Katie,

I worried when you said she was not recovering from her spaying. Something did not sound right. I am sorry she got so sick.

I hope YOU feel better.

AGaveG...hahahaha your tale is hysterical ( IPad wants it t be HISTORICAL" and it may be that too! )

Sorry I did not get that oven cleaning recipe to you ..I forgot .. and I may forget again ...I think forgetting is directly related to how much chocolate I eat before 10 am.
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Dec 19, 2016 2:17 PM CST
Name: Agavegirl1
South Sonoran Desert (Zone 9b)
Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Southwest Gardening Hummingbirder Dog Lover Critters Allowed
Container Gardener Garden Photography Cactus and Succulents Butterflies Bookworm Xeriscape
Yeah.......Hysterical, Historical and an Epic mess are all appropriate.

Hmmm...I never thought of chocolate as an effective form of memory deletion. Thumbs up

Good possibility providing it doesn't take longer to unwrap the candy bar than it does to open a bottle of Scotch.

As for the recipe I'll send it. Let me know if you find more uses for burnt mac 'n cheese then I have. I'm always happy to share the oven cleaner and the royalties. Hilarious!
To boldly grow where no man has lawn before.
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Dec 19, 2016 2:23 PM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
Bookworm Dragonflies Garden Art Region: North Carolina Plays in the sandbox Deer
Oh yes, chocolate before 10 am is known to cause a lot of things...even pregnancy, and while there are many things happening in this great land...trust me when I say NC is not part of the progression ... and so I got to take my thrills when I can get 'em. And, whisky and such not making my particular flavor buds happy..(well we do have a hole in the wall Mexican restaurant that brews a mean rich pulpy sangria ) ...
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Dec 19, 2016 4:44 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Rosie, what the heck kind of chocolate are you getting into, anyway?? Blinking

(I seem to remember an old saying that goes "candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker" ... Whistling )
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Dec 19, 2016 4:57 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
A report just came out that marijuana use during pregnancy is way up. Holy cow, what a surprise. Blinking
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Dec 19, 2016 5:02 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
drdawg said:A report just came out that marijuana use during pregnancy is way up. Holy cow, what a surprise. Blinking


I suppose with it being legalized in more places, that isn't all that surprising; but I can't think using marijuana during pregnancy (or any other time, I guess) is any better of an idea than using alcohol or smoking. Could be wrong... Shrug!
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Dec 19, 2016 5:59 PM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
Bookworm Dragonflies Garden Art Region: North Carolina Plays in the sandbox Deer
Smoking is smoking. Not sure if the other effects of marijuana pass thru to the fetus tho. And....WHO KNOWS what toxic crap ( pesticides) is used on those plants...it is not like farming it is not regulated like other crops
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Dec 19, 2016 6:09 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Level 1
@AgaveGirl1 ...........

Have you tried using the old stand by cleaning method of white vinegar mixed with baking soda ? It really does work on those awful messes. Of course, in your case, I would suggest that you follow up the initial application with a bit of scotch for yourself while you wait for it to work ... Smiling

Katie ... I, too, am so sorry you lost Sugar. I hope you are feeling better soon.

Jean ... 12F is too cold ! Here I am griping because it's 20F. Oh, well. Cold is cold.

I still can't get the settings on this new heater right. Part of it is design issues, but the rest of it is me. I just can't figure out how to work around the design problems and get warm ! Grumbling

1. The thermostat is located at the top of the heating head, which is located about 3" from the ceiling. Heat rises. The dang thing cycles off too quickly before the air in the room gets warm.
2. It recirculates the air in the room, which is supposed to be warm. Right now it is recirculating cool air.
3. The way my house is designed, there is one long hall way with the rooms branching off to one side. The only way the could install the system was to have one head at each end of that long hall facing each other. The hall is warmer than any of the rooms.

Net result ... I AM COLD ! Grumbling Grumbling I am wearing two sets of long johns, sweat pants with leggings over them. A heavy sweater and a coat / jacket inside the house ! I can hardly move ... Grumbling

There's a few more things I can try to move the air around into the rooms where the heads are located, but this is nuts !
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
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Dec 19, 2016 6:14 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Level 1
MISSINGROSIE said:Smoking is smoking. Not sure if the other effects of marijuana pass thru to the fetus tho. And....WHO KNOWS what toxic crap ( pesticides) is used on those plants...it is not farming it is regulated like other crops


Let's put it this way, Rosie, the illegal pot growers have used sufficient quantities of pesticides, fungicides and rodentcides to cause measurable pollution in the streams, creeks and rivers up here.
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
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Dec 19, 2016 6:16 PM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
Bookworm Dragonflies Garden Art Region: North Carolina Plays in the sandbox Deer
Can you set it higher so that it takes longer to reach the set point?

Can you set a fan in dooeways to pull air from the hallway into the other rooms

What is a head?
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Dec 19, 2016 6:18 PM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
Bookworm Dragonflies Garden Art Region: North Carolina Plays in the sandbox Deer
RoseBlush1 said:

Let's put it this way, Rosie, the illegal pot growers have used sufficient quantities of pesticides, fungicides and rodentcides to cause measurable pollution in the streams, creeks and rivers up here.




Exactly and we had kids ruin their lungs with cysts not from the pot but from those chemicals ... terrible. Would rather seen it grown as a crop with oversight
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Dec 19, 2016 6:33 PM CST
Name: katie
Mulege, Mexico (Baja CAliforni (Zone 11a)
I have a beautiful new SMOOTH floor!!! And I'm feeling better. Forced myself to stay in bed all day and it seems to have helped. katie
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Dec 19, 2016 6:51 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Level 1
MISSINGROSIE said:Can you set it higher so that it takes longer to reach the set point?

Can you set a fan in dooeways to pull air from the hallway into the other rooms

What is a head?


I did set it higher this morning. The one on the kitchen end of the hall way seems to be making that end of the house warmer.

The "head" is the heating unit. That's the part that heats the air and then blows it out into the room. It does have a "swing" feature for the fan blades. I've been experimenting with it today. I think I have found a way to set them so that the "warm" air blows into the living room instead of the hall and managed to lock them in place. No, there is nothing in the instruction book about how to do that ... Grumbling

If I've figured it out right, the system will have warm air to recirculate.

It may take a while for the room air to warm up before I will know if I've got it set right. Crossing Fingers!

I am so glad I didn't pay for this heating system so I don't have to gripe about that ... Smiling
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
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Dec 19, 2016 6:56 PM CST
Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
If it sparkles - I'm there!
Bookworm Dragonflies Garden Art Region: North Carolina Plays in the sandbox Deer
Looks like you got it covered!

Glad you like your floors katie
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Dec 19, 2016 7:42 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Mérida, Yucatán, México (Zone 13a)
The WITWIT Badge Region: Mexico Garden Procrastinator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Ponds Tropicals
Enjoys or suffers hot summers Plumerias Plays in the sandbox Dog Lover Cat Lover
MISSINGROSIE said:Jonna,
Incan give you the recipe for pig picking cake. Chilled, it is very cool and refreshing. Hard to quit eating it. A summery dessert for hot weather.


ok, I'm up for it but the name is pretty bizarre. Does it have bacon? lol

My guess is that at some point in the year there will be that kind of cabbage here and now that I know what it is I will grab it if I see it. Things sort of come and go here, there's no real logic behind it that i can find. One time I swear I asked a shop girl why they never carried something anymore and she said because it sold out too fast and they had to restock it all the time. OK, that is quite a business plan.

Things will disappear off the shelves of all the stores in town at around the same time and then suddenly they will all have it again. For instance, pooper scoopers for cat boxes. A couple years ago they disappeared completely, I searched and my friends all searched and they had all been vaporized or transported to another galaxy. About 9 months later, they were everywhere! I swear they were selling them on street corners. What I think is that the truck gets waylaid or tips over or something and there aren't anymore of those whatevers until the next truck comes.
A day without sunshine is like, you know, night.

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