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Jun 9, 2016 12:36 PM CST
Name: Jane H.
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
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Someone posted a NOID that looked just like Looky Loo recently. They thought it might be Thundering Ovation but looks more like yours.
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Jun 9, 2016 12:42 PM CST
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Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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Me too, Janie -- almost as much as the pinks!!

Hmmmm -- wonder if it's on the NOID thread..............I'll go look!
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Jun 9, 2016 8:13 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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I don't think that NoID is either since Thundering Ovation and Looky Loo have lines and speckles and the NoID has veining.

That said I am so jealous of you getting Electric Candy!!! nodding Such a beauty!
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Jun 9, 2016 10:17 PM CST
Name: Cleta
Idaho Falls Idaho (Zone 4a)
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Mary Ann, your pics are gorgeous. What beauty you must enjoy each spring. Love looking at this thread.
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Jun 10, 2016 4:11 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Brad sent me an Electric Candy too, and boy what a beauty. It's still blooming, it has a nice long bloom season. I used it on several crosses, after seeing some of the seedling he got from it. Hope I get seeds.
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Jun 10, 2016 10:29 AM CST
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Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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OK -- so Greg advised me that my Pep Rally isn't Pep Rally. Sigh. I meant to check that one before posting the picture -- and I forgot. Glare

So. Does anyone have any idea what that pretty red not-Pep Rally is?
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Jun 10, 2016 12:40 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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I agree that it isn't Pep Rally, but it sure is pretty. It is a deeper maroon red yes?
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Jun 10, 2016 9:16 PM CST
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Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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I think I have solved my own mystery. Tonight I finished cleaning, weeding and preening Nursery Bed #2 -- where the not-Pep Rally bloomed. And once I got all the dead leaves and weeds out of there, I could see several plant tags that weren't visible before. And right there, where not-Pep Rally bloomed, was the plant ID tag for Cardinal Rule. Just checked our database, and I think they are close enough to consider it likely. May not matter -- it would appear that the Cardinal Rule rhizome bloomed and rotted. It would also appear that I've lost Volcanic Glow............... Crying

To add to my other issues out there -- I have mole runs in the raised beds, under the rhizomes. So -- some of the rhizomes are dangling in mid-air above a mole run, and other rhizomes have sunk down into the mole runs.

Just shoot me now.............
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Jun 10, 2016 10:09 PM CST
Name: Niki
Bend, Oregon (Zone 6a)
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Oh no, I so hate the rodents.
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Jun 10, 2016 10:16 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
So sad to hear Mary Ann! I found that those that bloomed this year were also the only ones that had rot issues and leaf spot. So they got a bum deal for blooming. Thumbs down
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Jun 11, 2016 4:40 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Mary Ann, it's a pain to find this kind of thing. Cardinal Rule is such a nice one too. I had a few seedlings bloom with no increases, one would have been a keeper too. We'll see if it sends one out later.
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Jun 11, 2016 5:45 AM CST
Name: Leon
Indiana (Zone 5a)
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Muddymitts said:To add to my other issues out there -- I have mole runs in the raised beds, under the rhizomes. So -- some of the rhizomes are dangling in mid-air above a mole run, and other rhizomes have sunk down into the mole runs. .............


I was beginning to think I was the only person in North America with this problem! They can do a lot of damage, so I keep traps set at strategic spots. Occasionally I get lucky!
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Jun 11, 2016 7:00 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
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OOOh, Leon ! You shouldn't have mentioned mole traps Rolling my eyes. !
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Jun 11, 2016 7:08 AM CST
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Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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Leon -- I have mole runs in other Iris beds, but they are shallower, and they seem to go around Iris rhizomes. In these two beds, they are deeper and go right under them. I think because the base soil in these beds is *fluffier* -- and therefore easier for them to tunnel at the same depth as the ground they came from. Last year we had a bumper crop of moles -- and this year seems to be following suit. What kind of traps do you use? I usually feed them poison pellets, but someone told me they don't eat those things anyway. Blinking

So Tom -- does this look like your Cardinal Rule?
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I also have a couple of cultivars out there with only the remains of the bloom stalk -- and no evidence of making any increases.

And yes Leslie -- it is a deep maroony-red. Very pretty.............

Me too, Niki -- I hate rodents too........ Angry
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Jun 11, 2016 7:09 AM CST
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Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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Rolling on the floor laughing Arlyn!!!!!

Mayyyybe it's a different kind!!! And mayyyyyyyyybe they are truck-proof!!!!!
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Jun 11, 2016 7:20 AM CST
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Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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AlanJ said:I like your *Ancient One* Mary Ann Smiling I do have I. germanica, and the rhizome is doing very well, so I do expect decent blooms from it. I don't have any smaller ones, except a Dwarf bearded that someone told me is an ancient form of I. germanica. It was here when I bought the mobile home. It desperately needed thinning out, which I did, but now I need to add more rhizomes, so I chose 'Royal Maroon' an 8-inch MDB to fill in the empty spaces. It's lovely. I had originally wanted 'Cherry Garden' but it is to tall at 11-inches. I don't expect any blooms on my Iris until May, unless 'Crimson King' blooms out for me early.


Edited to add @AlanJ..........
I was reading through the early posts on this thread, and a couple of things piqued my curiosity.

Alan did your Ancient One I. Germanica bloom this year? I don't remember seeing pictures of it..........
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Jun 11, 2016 7:25 AM CST
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Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
janielouy said:We have chances for "hard Freeze" or hard frost on Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday. I have bloom stalks on a few and two blooms. I am worried also about my hydrangeas. They really get zapped when we have a late freeze/frost.


Edited to add @Janielouy.........
Janie -- you may have solved a mystery for me. Last year my hydrangeas did not bloom at all -- I did not know why. Maybe we had a late freeze? Mine are beautiful this year!!
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Mine are planted right next to the house -- so they do get some radiant heat, I am sure.
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Jun 11, 2016 10:26 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Gorgeous hydrangeas! Lovey dubby

I really like your Cardinal Coat noid. Sad to hear it bloomed then rotted. As I have said before, the only ones of mine that got rot this year are ones that bloomed. Weird year for it.

I hate when I get moles in the yard because then I get Copperheads. They take out the mole population but then I have a snake problem.
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Jun 11, 2016 11:19 AM CST
Name: Leon
Indiana (Zone 5a)
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crowrita1 said:OOOh, Leon ! You shouldn't have mentioned mole traps Rolling my eyes. !

I figured I'd get in trouble with the 'politically correct' crowd, the white house, Gestapo or somebody in congress! Thumbs down Out here we try to think for ourselves! Whistling
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Jun 11, 2016 11:51 AM CST
Name: Leon
Indiana (Zone 5a)
Light is the shadow of God!
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Muddymitts said:Leon -- I have mole runs in other Iris beds, but they are shallower, and they seem to go around Iris rhizomes. In these two beds, they are deeper and go right under them. I think because the base soil in these beds is *fluffier* -- and therefore easier for them to tunnel at the same depth as the ground they came from. Last year we had a bumper crop of moles -- and this year seems to be following suit. What kind of traps do you use? I usually feed them poison pellets, but someone told me they don't eat those things anyway. Blinking
Mary Ann the best 'mole trap' I ever had is in the picture below. Unfortunately I lost her a while back due to aging and seizures. I let her have her way with the moles because they are so destructive and damaging. Not only in the iris beds, but they would take out a row of green beans in one night! They seem to know how to go straight down a row beneath the plants. I am not environmentally 'friendly' when my property and lifestyle are being destroyed! Thumbs down And, there is no such thing as 'poison' peanuts: They do not eat them! Thumbs down

I am now looking for a replacement for this 'trap' which I will always miss. She was my constant shadow. Smiling
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