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Jul 8, 2016 8:46 PM CST
Name: Ashton & Terry
Oklahoma (Zone 7a)
Windswept Farm & Gardens
Butterflies Keeps Sheep Pollen collector Region: Oklahoma Lilies Irises
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Gale, looks like you are off to a good start.
Here are a couple of our blue eyed seedlings.
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Jul 8, 2016 9:17 PM CST
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Pollen collector Fruit Growers Permaculture Hybridizer Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Garden Photography Herbs Region: United States of America
Nice teeth Gale Lovey dubby
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Jul 8, 2016 9:54 PM CST
Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
"The mountains are calling..."
Region: California Daylilies Irises Vegetable Grower Moon Gardener Dog Lover
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Gale, your red UF, wine eyed pink, and last purple are nice. Your poly reminds me of what lurks (at a low %) in my seedling patch...

Kid, that first one is a stunner!
Evaluating an iris seedling, hopefully for rebloom
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Jul 9, 2016 8:12 AM CST
Name: Gerry Donahue
Pleasant Lake, IN (Zone 5b)
Hostas Garden Ideas: Master Level
This is the first bloom from a seedling from Crazy Miss Daisy X God Save the Queen.

Branch, 5 way
Buds, 11
Scape, 27"
Bloom, 9" span


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Jul 9, 2016 8:33 AM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Container Gardener
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Oh! That is a really nice one, Gerry! Hurray!
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters, compared to what lies within us.
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Jul 9, 2016 9:36 AM CST
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Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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Polymerous said
In any event, I never get the budcount here that I see registered, even when I am diligent about fertilizing. Possibly the clumps may be overgrown, and I have no doubt that the water restrictions here (* cough, drought, cough *) are not helping any. I also have a sneaking suspicion that our latitude plays into this (Zone 9 in N. CA is not the same as Zone 9 in FL, in other words). I am seeing maiden bloom on most of my seedlings this summer (in a raised bed on a drip system) that are running from 6 to 9; those were regularly fertilized (with liquid fertilizer delivered via a watering can, since I can't trust the drip to play well with granular fertilizer), and from the parents I would have expected a higher bud count. (Yes, I know, a 6 to 9 bud count is pathetic... ) A couple of (pot grown) older large flowered seedlings have managed to pull themselves up to a budcount of 12-15, but that is obviously still not good enough. I would suspect that maybe confinement to pots also restricted the budcount, except that the daylilies in the ground aren't doing tremendously better (somewhat better, yes, but no budcounts into the mid-twenties or higher). Maybe it is the lack of water...

The first thing I would do is take a ph test, I keep mine between 6 and 6.5 If the ph is to low the plants can't take up the fertilizer you applying. You may want to take a soil test also to make sure you don't have to much of something in the soil. Also use a fertilizers with a low middle # like a 16-4-8. Another thing I do different is spray the liquid fertilizer on the foliage and not pore it in the ground. These are things that work for me and are only suggestions you may want to try. One other thing, if your pots are in the same condition as you beds you will get the same results, pots here do not effect the bud count unless they become crowded.
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Jul 9, 2016 9:49 AM CST
Name: Hilary Picton
Dousland, Devon UK (Zone 9a)
Gorgeous colours Gerry!
More in my patch today looking good in spite of the rain
Violet Victory x Joan Ochs
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Spacecoast Behaviour Pattern x Spinefeld
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Ida's Magic x Cherry Stone
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All American Tiger x Purple Crowned Fairy
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Perfectly Happy x Unknown



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Jul 9, 2016 12:42 PM CST
Name: Gale
CentralWa (Zone 6a)
Beautiful seedlings everyone, it still amazes me how much variety a Daylily produces. I had only one new seedling today worth sharing, and my favorite 2016 seedling had a poly bloom again today, it has had several poly blooms so far.
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Jul 9, 2016 2:20 PM CST
Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
"The mountains are calling..."
Region: California Daylilies Irises Vegetable Grower Moon Gardener Dog Lover
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Lots of nice purples, guys! (Pssst Gale, care to share the parentage on your poly seedling?)

@spunky1 - Fred, thanks for your comments on the fertilizer and pH - that is something that I didn't think about. The raised beds were filled with essentially the same redwood mulch/planting mix as the pots. I believe I checked them with a meter not long after they were filled and watered in, and they were in the "right" range, but I'll check again. My comments wrt water had to do with comments I have read by various hybridizers to the effect that water is more important than fertilizers. While we had a "wet" (for us) winter, it's been fairly dry here since late March, and we are on watering restrictions. I was presuming that not having a lot of water (the usual case in this garden, but especially so the last couple of years) might impact the bud count.

As to fertilizer, I've been using a variety of things, but have been trying to keep the P low. I've been afraid to water the foliage itself (rust - I do not use fungicides here) but I guess I should get over that.
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Jul 9, 2016 2:44 PM CST
Name: Gale
CentralWa (Zone 6a)
Poly, I do not know the parents, It was my first year planting seeds, and my method for keeping track of crosses didn't work well, most of my first bunch of seedlings are unknowns. I have noticed 5 poly blooms from it, but most are normal. It is its first year blooming as a three-year-old, would have bloomed last year, but the goats got out and ate all the buds. It did produce two prolifs on the scape though, and one of those had a little scape this year.
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Jul 9, 2016 4:04 PM CST
Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
"The mountains are calling..."
Region: California Daylilies Irises Vegetable Grower Moon Gardener Dog Lover
Bookworm Garden Photography Birds Pollen collector Garden Procrastinator Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Ah, pity. Do you know if it is a dip or a tet (or do you do both)? (It looks tet to me...)

I've certainly been challenged by the identities of some of my seedlings. I'm getting a better handle on it, but sometimes clips get lost, pollen gets bee-mixed, and there are always the "spring volunteers" Rolling my eyes. . The latter do make life interesting, sort of.... "I think that she was the mommy, but who was the daddy? Was it A or B or Bee?" Hilarious!
Evaluating an iris seedling, hopefully for rebloom
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Jul 9, 2016 4:58 PM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
Daylilies Hybridizer Irises Butterflies Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Birds Region: Michigan Vegetable Grower Hummingbirder Heucheras Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
TODAY'S SEEDLINGS:


SURPRISINGLY PINK X BEST OF FRIENDS (garden name Lighthouse Divine)

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LIGHTHOUSE DIVINE X SKINWALKER

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LAVENDER BLUE BABY X JAN'S TWISTER

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PHENOMENAL PHOENIX X STARMAN'S QUEST

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JESTER'S COLLAR X SKINWALKER

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LIGHTHOUSE NEON GALAXY X (WILSON SPIDER X LILTING BELLE)

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Lighthouse Gardens
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Jul 9, 2016 6:26 PM CST
Name: Gale
CentralWa (Zone 6a)
Poly, it is a tet. I am hopefull that my new record keeping will be better, time will tell.
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Jul 9, 2016 6:44 PM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Container Gardener
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Birds Ponds
My record keeping went downhill this year because of work. I had so hoped to measure and write dates, but alas it didn't happen. I did keep the photos I took marked properly, so I do have photos and what they are in my file folder. I create a computer file folder for the year (2016), then folders inside that folder - 1 folder for each seedling or cultivar. Each folder is labeled with the name or seedling number. So it's very easy for me to go right to any year's folder and then open that folder up to view all the folders for each daylily that bloomed that year.

I kinda let the stats slide because most of mine are young or new daylilies, so I know the stats will not be accurate until it grows into a mature plant or a clump.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters, compared to what lies within us.
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Jul 9, 2016 6:53 PM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Container Gardener
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Birds Ponds
Cindy - Love those! You have some lovely UF/Spider seedlings!
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters, compared to what lies within us.
Garden Rooms and Becky's Budget Garden
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Jul 10, 2016 5:00 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
Daylilies Hybridizer Irises Butterflies Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Birds Region: Michigan Vegetable Grower Hummingbirder Heucheras Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
Thanks Becky!!!
Lighthouse Gardens
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Jul 10, 2016 12:51 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
Composter Daylilies Garden Photography Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Region: Alabama
Had a nice bloom on Seedling #5 today:
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Two blooms on Seedling #4:
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Jul 10, 2016 1:54 PM CST
Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
"The mountains are calling..."
Region: California Daylilies Irises Vegetable Grower Moon Gardener Dog Lover
Bookworm Garden Photography Birds Pollen collector Garden Procrastinator Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Becky, my record keeping is perpetually downhill, though I am trying to do better. Now that I actually have real seedling beds, I am forced to make notes on which ones bloomed, which ones didn't, and of those that bloomed, which (if any Rolling my eyes. ) are worth another look - and why. ("Forced" because I know I am going to need the bed space next season... so I had better know which seedlings to keep, which ones to toss, and which ones to move elsewhere for another look.) Part of this record keeping entails taking endless pictures (though somehow I completely failed to either make notes on OR take a picture of a seedling that bloomed this season, which was sitting RIGHT ON MY PATIO! *Blush* I comfort myself with the thought that it must have been a really bad seedling if I didn't even bother to waste the digital bits on it...)

Since I don't always immediately clip my crosses, this is the year that I finally learned that I had better write down what the pollen parents are, so I can follow up and clip them later (either once I have made all the crosses, or later in the evening, when it is cooler). On any given day, I (have learned to) only use one pollen parent on a pod parent, to simply things. I have a little 3" (or so) ring-bound notebook that I now carry out to the garden to use to record the crosses. (If I don't... by the time I get through X crosses, it's a matter of "...did I use THIS pollen or THAT on this plant? Confused ".) I find it easier than trying to juggle a variety of paper clips AND pollen (maybe stored pollen, at that) while I am rushing around the garden. (The notebook and pen are left on the patio table, and after every couple of crosses I go write in it; even my failing memory can manage to hang onto that much information, short term - unless DH comes out into the garden and distracts me, that is. Hilarious! ) When I am ready to do my clips, I check each cross off as I clip it, so I know that I didn't miss anything.

This little notebook has also come in handy for scribbling seedling observations and measurements and making various other garden notes. At the end of the day, I tear off the pages, come inside, and enter the relevant information into the computer (and maybe onto my "to do" list).
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Jul 10, 2016 2:24 PM CST
Name: Steve Todd
Illinois (Zone 5b)
Daylilies Region: Illinois Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers cold winters
I love seeing all the seedlings!

Was a dippy seedling day here. Some of my favs blooming were:


WHITE SATIN X ISABELLE ROSE


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GREEN THROATED ROBIN X SHALOTT X SHALOTT SIB


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SHALOTT X SEARCH FOR GREEN PASTURE (from "you're the reason our kids are ugly" thread....still not perfect form but I like the green and bud count)


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ARNO'S BOW TIE X SHALOTT


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and lastly the one this forum calls "tip of my tongue" or "pucker up" or "kissed by a frog"...lol. Whatever the name, a future for sure.



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Jul 10, 2016 2:28 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
Composter Daylilies Garden Photography Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Region: Alabama
Wow, really beautiful bloom on that GREEN THROATED ROBIN X SHALOTT X SHALOTT SIB Thumbs up

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