Plant Database forum: Search oddities

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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Dec 17, 2011 9:41 PM CST

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I am wondering if the search works right, for daylilies, I just selected one feature and typed in 'orange' in the color description field at the very bottom. It only brings up a page worth and I know there are probably thousands of orange daylilies among those 71,000+ entries.
Shouldn't there be a page 2, 3, 4, etc?

We have also been checking off the base color in addition to already having that entire color description, I just figured it may be something easier to utilize for a search. (Not so sure now if we actually should even bother though, with this many daylilies it would take a long time to check all of them!) Anyways, when I did a new search using the 'orange' in the check-off color section, I got a totally different set of daylilies. That's odd because we are getting the color orange for that check-off section from that original color description to begin with. Blinking
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dave
Dec 18, 2011 9:13 AM CST

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Calif_Sue said:I am wondering if the search works right, for daylilies, I just selected one feature and typed in 'orange' in the color description field at the very bottom. It only brings up a page worth and I know there are probably thousands of orange daylilies among those 71,000+ entries.
Shouldn't there be a page 2, 3, 4, etc?


The search engine isn't designed to return thousands of results. That's not really what it's for. It's more for narrowing down your search to a smaller set. This is why the maximum results returned is 100 plants and there is no forward button.

It may be that one day I may make another browsing tool that lets you browse by a specific attribute, but we will likely never have this advanced search go through thousands of results. The point is to narrow it down.

Anyways, when I did a new search using the 'orange' in the check-off color section, I got a totally different set of daylilies. That's odd because we are getting the color orange for that check-off section from that original color description to begin with. Blinking


This is likely because it's searching a different field and returning the first 100 it found, well, those first 100 may be different than the first 100 when searching a different field.

Narrow the search down further by selecting other options, as well, and you should start to see the same plants.

But the important thing to note here is that this "Search by characteristics" is NOT meant to be a browse-all-plants type feature, but rather a very specific and targeted search tool. Browsing by a single characteristic is something that we can add later.
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Dec 18, 2011 12:33 PM CST

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Ahhh, that makes sense!
So, do you think that we should continue to also add the base bloom color to the check-off color section? If we keep that color check-off section in place, it seems like it would be needed. On the other hand, now that we have the complete color description in place, perhaps we don't need that entire color check-off section at all. Confused
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dave
Dec 18, 2011 12:42 PM CST

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Well, it's entirely up to you.

But you're right, with the description in place, you could just search for "blue" or "red" into that field. Yes, as I think of it, maybe we should do away with the color checkboxes and just rely on the color description. If you want, I can disable it but not delete it. Then it won't show up but if we change our mind, all I have to do is re-enable it and we won't have lost anything.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Dec 18, 2011 12:50 PM CST

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It won't delete anyone's acorns will it? Green Grin!

I say, lets' disable it and then we can play around with the search for a while and see if it feels right to leave it off entirely.
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dave
Dec 18, 2011 12:56 PM CST

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No it won't mess with acorn counts. I've disabled it!
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eclayne
Dec 18, 2011 8:09 PM CST

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If it did delete acorns ya'll are NOT getting my flower pot mug back.
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dave
Dec 19, 2011 7:52 AM CST

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Nobody is taking any acorns OR mugs back. Smiling

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