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Dec 19, 2011 11:08 AM CST
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Name: Julia
Shepherdstown WV (Zone 6b)
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After a couple of times buying single fans and seeing poor performance after one winter here, I'm
wondering if perhaps I'm just having bad luck with single fan purchases. Our temps rarely fall below
zero, we get strong north/west winds from time to time, the gardens are in an open area, snowfall can range
from a dusting to several inches but with the winds, it tends to blow out into the fields around us or piles up on
one end of the garden.

With all that said, what daylilies have you purchased which thrived (not just survived) in your garden after
its first winter?

Julia
Julia
Shepherdstown WV
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Dec 19, 2011 11:19 AM CST
Name: Jan
Hustisford, WI
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Many of my auction wins are single fans, although by the time I received them quite a few had increased. I lost one LA seedling this year, and almost lost Tusk, which was slowly coming back when the growing season ended. But I have not gone through winter in a 5A zone with these plants.... Ask me next summer!
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Dec 19, 2011 11:32 AM CST
Name: stephanie king
cut bank, MT z 3a-4b
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I atone time did not think it was making a difference but have changed my mind. The last 2 winters have been really extreme in zone 3-4 and the single fans I received I tried to really plump up before winter but I have lost more of them or were slow to increase VS dble triple fans. I have gotten singles this past season and I request Dble fans instead of a bonus so I hope that is what I get in the spring.
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Dec 19, 2011 1:41 PM CST
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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I now try to purchase DF's from the hybridizers, who usually send great plants, but I have started buying recent daylilies through the Lily Auction this year and I prefer to purchase DF's if I can -- but I've certainly purchased quite a few SF's this year and I'll see how that goes.
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Dec 19, 2011 1:54 PM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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I get mostly double fans. I have lost 2 single fans that I can remember. One was Frog's Eye and the other was Skinwalker. I repurchased Skinwalker in a triple fan and I have had it for the last 2 winters with no problem.
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Dec 20, 2011 6:19 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Julia
Shepherdstown WV (Zone 6b)
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Well it seems I am not alone in my thinking to stick to double fans. Waiting 3 years to see any adequate increase so I could actually do a cross with them is a waste of space. Thumbs down
Julia
Shepherdstown WV
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Dec 20, 2011 10:51 AM CST
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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Isn't that the truth? And you can shop it out when there's a specific daylily you're looking for. I love to purchase from the hybridizers, and most of the ones I purchase from have a good selection of daylilies of other hybridizers as well as their own. I hop around the various websites and search their "General Catalog" to see if they have a daylily I'm looking for and then compare prices, and sometimes you can get a great deal. Last year I picked up BASS GIBSON from Floyd Cove and SNOW CRYSTAL from Water Mill (Trimmers) for as little as half the price others were selling them for, and in each case they sent a beautiful triple fan! And I might add that the prices for these were each well below what single fans were going for on the Lily Auction!
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Dec 20, 2011 1:52 PM CST
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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I feel the same way, in fact there is one seller in particular that only lists single fans, I just keep on scrolling. I think he is doing himself a disservice by listing them that way.
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Dec 20, 2011 2:23 PM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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The only time I will list a single fan for sale is if I have very low quantity. Most of my listings are double or triple fans.
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Dec 20, 2011 2:36 PM CST
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
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This summer, for the first time, bought 6 single fans from one seller on The Lily Auction.
They fattened up nicely and are still green now, so I will see how they do this year and let you know.

I generally only buy double + fans from hybridizers, but took a chance this time and thought I would experiment.
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Dec 20, 2011 6:01 PM CST
Name: stephanie king
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Sue I won't mention any names but I believe i know who you mean. I saw a plant of his on the LA listed twice and the first one is a single fan for $150.00 then the second fan he is selling right below that one but with a FREE gift plant included. That one sells for $298. Now my math is not that bad. 150 and free is not 298. I was shocked to say the least. I have bought his single fans and he has sent dgls when requested as bonus but this really freaked me out.
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Dec 20, 2011 6:10 PM CST
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
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The ones I got were relatively cheap, so I gave it a try....
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Dec 20, 2011 6:11 PM CST
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
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The problem I have had with the LA, is that I have gotten things not true to name.
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Dec 20, 2011 6:33 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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I hate to buy single fans but sometimes there is just no other way. Even so I have had good luck with any of the single fans I bought, not that I got many that way. The only thing is that it takes them so much longer to clump up because they started with only one. I know I got BASS GIBSON as a single fan but it did well in my garden. Also SWEET ISABELA as I was on a waiting list and a single fan was available. I took it. Doing great now.
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Dec 20, 2011 6:52 PM CST
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Janice, did you contact the seller? It's not so much the LA you have a problem with, rather with the seller themselves when something is incorrectly labeled, that can happen though to any of us. If the seller values his reviews and reputation, they will usually try to make things right.
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Dec 20, 2011 6:58 PM CST
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
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Thanks, Sue.
It all got taken care of ok. I gave it another try with a different seller last summer, so we shall see how these turn out. Smiling
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Dec 21, 2011 2:20 PM CST
Name: Juli
Ohio (Zone 6a)
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I sometimes get very small single fans from Curt Hanson as a personal gift. Other than giving them another year to get some growth, I have not had any problems growing them. Sometimes these are very small pencil sized fans that have broken off when he has divided clumps. The price is right (free) and after 2-3 years, you would not know that they were small when planted. I have not ordered a lot of daylilies in the last few years, so don't have a recent experience other than Curt's to go by -- but generally, I do not hesitate to get singles. I do not recall any time I have planted singles and been disappointed. Sometimes when I went to visit John Rice, I would ***purposefully** buy rooted prolifs and they also have done fine. Can't get much smaller single than a rooted prolif.
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Dec 21, 2011 2:50 PM CST
Name: shirlee
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This past year, I bought four singles (the only way they were offered for sale), and they
doubled. Just stepped outside to count them.

Three of the singles bloomed and I used the pollen. Small plants with normal sized bloom.
Amazed me to no end. Now, if they will just make it through the winter. The one that did
not bloom was a bonus plant, so can't complain.

Also bought two plants (double fans each) that have not increased at all, although they did
bloom and again I used the pollen.
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Dec 30, 2011 6:34 AM CST
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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I buy DFs when I can but I also like to add some newer plants and they are so pricey that I take a chance on SFs. I have gotten several from Abundantdls on the LA and I have not lost any of them . Mine have been a very nice size and sometimes bloom the first season. I am sure in the north SFs would be more risky.

VIOLET VICTORY

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Dec 30, 2011 6:38 AM CST
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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If you wanted names here are a few: I do not purchase dips as a SF.

MOUNTAIN WILDFLOWER
PAINTED PINWHEEL
VIOLETS BECOME YOU
THOMAS TEW
CRAZY IVAN
DERANGED DUCKLING
HOUSE OF QUACK

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