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Sep 2, 2013 12:57 PM CST
Name: Sharon
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If I had land, if I had farm animals, if I were young - I swear this would be my dream barn.
It's just perfect.
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Sep 2, 2013 12:58 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
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Sounds like my sentiments exactly Sharon. nodding Hilarious!
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Sep 2, 2013 1:00 PM CST
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Thanks you all. We do like our barn. Lovey dubby

The square bales we work with are about 60 pounds each.
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Sep 2, 2013 1:38 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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Young whippersnapper.
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Sep 2, 2013 1:42 PM CST
Name: Margaret
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Dave, thanks for posting the photos of your barn, I tip my hat to you. looks like you really thought things out to make it efficient and a nice place to work in. Thumbs up
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Sep 2, 2013 1:45 PM CST
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We definitely put a lot of thought it. Thumbs up Our next project, actually, is a chicken house. We've had a 8x8 coop for many years but I'm ready to make a new coop at least twice as big, with rotational yards that I can rotate the chickens through and also garden in. I guess I'll start a new thread about that later, if anyone is interested.
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Sep 2, 2013 1:48 PM CST
Name: Margaret
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I am, sounds very interesting, love projects like that nodding
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Sep 2, 2013 1:53 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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I like the idea of rotating yards of chickens and gardens. That is what we have done with our pigs - quite successfully.
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Sep 2, 2013 2:01 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
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dave said:We definitely put a lot of thought it. Thumbs up Our next project, actually, is a chicken house. We've had a 8x8 coop for many years but I'm ready to make a new coop at least twice as big, with rotational yards that I can rotate the chickens through and also garden in. I guess I'll start a new thread about that later, if anyone is interested.


Me, me, me! I am very interested. I can't keep chickens here due to the zoning laws, have always wanted them. So I get my chickens fix by reading what chicken keepers are up to. Hilarious!
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Sep 2, 2013 2:16 PM CST
Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
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That's a beautiful barn. I bet the kids have fun in there too! Looks like "work" would become "play" for the young ones in such a fine barn.
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Sep 2, 2013 2:20 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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Yes, yes, we want a thread all about the chicken coop stage by stage as you're doing it. Hurray!
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Sep 2, 2013 2:34 PM CST
Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
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I am very excited to learn all about the special chicken coop, sounds like a great idea. Smiling
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Sep 2, 2013 2:40 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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Of course we want a thread about your chicken coop. We tried rotational yards but didn't do it right or we just have too many chickens/guineas for the space so I would love to see how you do it.

Your kids are so lucky growing up on a farm!
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Sep 2, 2013 2:41 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
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When you do the new coop Dave, please also post pictures of the old coop. That way we can really get to appreciate all the improvements.
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Sep 2, 2013 2:45 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Just love the photos of the barn interior. Just love the barn. What is not to love. We did the same thing with out vacuum pump in the far end of the barn on the other side of a heavy wall. It was the best. So quite and peaceful at milking time.
We didn't have any facilities in the barn for clean up, so everything went to the house for cleaning. That was a pain in the winter.

I would really love to see the new chicken coop when you do it. I've been thinking of putting one in the far back yard, and having maybe 6 to 8 hens.
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Sep 2, 2013 3:01 PM CST
Name: Arlene
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What a great barn, Dave! I love the colors and you really did a great job thinking that through!
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Sep 3, 2013 11:05 AM CST
So Cal (Zone 10b)
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dave said:That's interesting about the raccoon penetrating your barn via the roll-up door. In our case the rollup doors have absolutely no openings. They are rock solid and nearly air tight. I can't imagine an animal getting in when those doors are closed. We went with a commercial grade rollup door that is actually developed for the self-storage units.


We had Mueller design and pre-fab our workshop and we used their doors (and recommended installer). Although there is no gap when the door is open, when the door is fully rolled down, a small gap forms between the door's axle/pin and the door jam/header due to the change in the diameter of the barrel (if that makes any sense). The door appears to be fully sealed when you look at it from ground level but after the raccoon incident, we investigated further and found we could see the gap from a higher and more angled vantage point. Although it is 5" at best, it was enough for that critter to work its way in Blinking We will be adding a fascia piece as the permanent fix. Had it not been for Mr. Rocky, we would not have even been aware of the gap.

I think the problem arose because of the placement of the door in conjunction with the slope of the ceiling. The roll couldn't be place any higher without scraping the ceiling nor could it be placed any further back without tying into the rafters or cutting into the overhead space (??) I added some pics:


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The photos were sent via phone so I apologize for the clarity. The last photo should show that, when the door is down, the barrel is too thin to seal the gap

dave said:
Every sliding door I've ever seen was loose and hard to secure. Inconvenient to open from the inside and the way they swing the rock back and forth in wind is disruptive to a calm environment. They always seem to leak water into the barn, too. The rollup doors have none of these issues and when the door is open the door is all wrapped up into a nice tight barrel in the ceiling that's out of the way.

We use dutch door sliders that are steel framed and which run in a upper and lower rail/track system. Although they do not sway at all, the design requires a sill which makes cleaning more difficult and poses a trip hazard (also, they are very heavy doors). We haven't had issues with water leakage but, because a gap is necessary to allow the doors to slide properly, it allows snakes, rats, mice, etc to gain entry into the stalls. Many years back, we almost lost a horse to a rattle snake bite so it is a real problem. Also, you are absolutely right - they can be difficult to open from the inside (the extra weight doesn't help either) although having a grill as the upper portion of the dutch door helps.

dave said:
As promised, here's some more pics:

The rollup door in the closed position:

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You can also see how we have a ring right in the entrance to the door. So during hay feeding season, we can put hay into that ring and it keeps the hay out of the rain. The cows just walk up to the barn and stick their heads right in and eat. The manure falls onto the porch that they are standing on and we scoop it up daily and put it into a pile for composting.

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What a great idea!!!! I hope that you won't mind if I borrow this idea for our new barn.

I am also going to go ahead and use roll-ups, too. I will be more aware this time, though, about how placement (sloped ceiling, etc) can impact installation. It is always a learning process... Big Grin

You really have incorporated some nice ideas with the layout -and having the pump far from the work area makes a lot of sense for so many reasons. Not only is your barn aesthetically pleasing, it is so functional and user-/animal friendly, too. Great job!!!! Thank you so much for sharing - you have given me quite an education Thumbs up
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Sep 3, 2013 11:14 AM CST
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I'm glad you're getting some ideas here. That's the main point of my sharing, just in case others want some ideas for their own projects. Thumbs up

I really do love having the hay ring under the loft. Years past we fed out under the sky and when it rained, well, the hay got wet. That's how everyone around here does it and it is wasteful. If one has the option to feed hay under roof they should.

OldGardener said:...when the door is down, the barrel is too thin to seal the gap...


I completely see what you mean here. That is really interesting as mine has no (visible) gap when the door is down. I'll go out there later and inspect it more closely and see if there's a gap if I get up there and look more closely. Your adding a fascia to close the gap is a good solution.

Of course, the raccoons will just jump in through your open dutch doors. Smiling I solve that problem by placing a bounty on raccoons. The children love getting a dollar for every one they catch.
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Sep 3, 2013 2:46 PM CST
Name: Lynn
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For our children the bounty was on Sage Rats. They cause havoc to your fields if you are using ditch irrigation. The children got 25 cents a piece for them.
I have to admit they were really cute. They even kept one as a pet. He would whistle every time he heard the school bus bringing the children home. He followed them everywhere and was quite lovable.
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Sep 3, 2013 3:48 PM CST
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valleylynn said:For our children the bounty was on Sage Rats.


That's a new one for me. I had to look up to find out what a Sage Rat was. I even found references to Sage Rat hunting!
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