Roses forum: Ketchup and Mustard

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Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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Betja
Apr 15, 2012 1:54 PM CST
Well, it's getting close now! I was just out checking on it, and even though I'd already lost the sunlight I took a few pictures. Won't be long now!

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I purchased this 24" tree rose from Regan's and received and potted it up in January, and it just went into the ground a couple of weeks ago. And I think this is actually the tree rose that had almost half of the trunk missing from the roots to almost halfway up the trunk -- but so far it's very happy. And I love the glossy foliage. The other tree I ordered from them, VAVOOM, is still sitting there in the pot and has not broken dormancy yet -- and I don't think it ever will. It apparently is NOT happy!

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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Apr 15, 2012 2:06 PM CST

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Too bad about Vavoom, Betty, but Ketchup and Mustard looks great!
Name: Cindi
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CindiKS
Apr 15, 2012 3:21 PM CST
My Ketchup and Mustard that i bought in California is growing well, but it was one of the first to get blackspot. We've had rain at night several times this spring, so I've sprayed twice already.
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Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Skiekitty
Apr 16, 2012 8:29 AM CST
I'm very unhappy! I went to Tagawa's Nursery (the closest LGS to me) and talked to Lynn (the rosarian there) back in Feb to be assured that she'd gotten K&M otherwise I would have ordered it elsewhere. She said, no problem, K&M plus Sugar Moon (but not Twilight Zone).

Went there yesterday to take stock of all their roses (and take pictures.. and of course I left my camera at home!!). NO K&M. NO SugarMoon. In fact, like nobody new or exciting! Talk about BLEH! In fact, the only blue roses they have this year are Intrigue & Heirloom! Not even BlueGirl or Stainless Steel or Sterling Silver! They had those last year.. tons of them, and they sold out like hotcakes in the beginning of their sales ("Night of Wine & Roses"). I'm VERY disappointed!

Here's a teeny sample of the roses at Tagawa's Nursery. You can see on the right that the Midas Touch are from Weeks, the ones on the left are from Star. Thumb of 2012-04-17/Skiekitty/a83ce6

Hopefully Paulino's will have K&M & SugarMoon.. I have to make a run up that way & find out! I just hate that drive! I *did* go to a different nursery on Saturday & they had gotten in 2 K&Ms.. but those sold that same day, so they'll get more. I *did* pick up a Midnight Blue (really good shape) because I had lost mine (I killed the poor thing.. it really needs partial sun!). Then we got snow on Sat night and it snowed half the day yesterday, but it didn't stick, so I'm not complaining.. free moisture!!

Betty - I just hope that it shows more Mustard than it's showing now.. that's what really looks soo cool about K&M!

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Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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Betja
Apr 19, 2012 10:48 AM CST
These were finally open yesterday, but unfortunately once again I didn't make it out there until it was in afternoon shade. I'll try to get myself out there this morning while it's in full sunlight to see if I can get a couple more shots. The first two pictures are from two days ago while they were still opening buds.





I hope this will be enough mustard for you Toni -- and I think in sunlight they will be much brighter. I totally love it!

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Name: Toni
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Skiekitty
Apr 19, 2012 11:13 AM CST
Yum! That is a GORGEOUS rose. I DEFINITELY have to get one.

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Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
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Calif_Sue
Apr 19, 2012 11:18 AM CST

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It's a beauty! I first saw it as a numbered test plant in a public rose garden.
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Apr 19, 2012 12:02 PM CST

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Just sent you the link to the existing database entry Betty. Green Grin! Sometimes it's easier to search with just part of the name. Thumbs up
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Calif_Sue
Apr 19, 2012 12:26 PM CST

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Your thread here remnded me that I had photos of this rose when it was still a test plant, I finally found those photos and added them HMF and here.

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Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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Betja
Apr 19, 2012 6:09 PM CST
Is that picture upside down, or is it my eyes? Hilarious! Beautiful picture, though!
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Calif_Sue
Apr 19, 2012 8:25 PM CST

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A heavy hanging bloom! Green Grin!
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Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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CindiKS
May 1, 2012 7:23 PM CST
Mine opened today...pretty impressive for a maiden bloom the day after strong winds and heavy rain.


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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
May 1, 2012 7:44 PM CST

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Great shot, it really shows the contrast in detail!
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Name: Porkpal
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May 1, 2012 8:00 PM CST
Wow!
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Name: Cindi
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CindiKS
May 1, 2012 9:49 PM CST
Thank you. The bloom wasn't as large as I had hoped. Should I cut off the other buds and let the bush grow for a few more months? It's still not very tall. I planted it bare root last November.
The canes are nice and thick, though.
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Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Skiekitty
May 2, 2012 9:28 AM CST
Cindi - That's GORGEOUS. *swoon!!* Drooling Drooling Drooling Give your baby time.. they'll start bringing out big purdies. But damn, those colors are SPECTACULAR!!
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Name: Gloria Levely
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glevely
May 2, 2012 6:37 PM CST
okay I put it at the top of the list Lovey dubby Lovey dubby Lovey dubby

DJJohnnyK
Jul 2, 2014 3:53 PM CST
Has anyone grown this plant from seed?
Are there any special instructions?
Thanks!
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jul 2, 2014 6:00 PM CST

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This is a hybrid, so it can't be grown from seed.
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Skiekitty
Jul 2, 2014 7:27 PM CST
DJJohnny - please don't fall for the unscrupulous sellers on eBay, Amazon, & other places that sell "rare" rose seeds with gorgeous pictures but end up sending you Rosa rugosa, which will look NOTHING like the picture!! I posted this a while back as I'm an eBay-aholic & live the 'shopped pictures.

The thread "Caveat Emptor! on eBay" in Roses forum
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