Cindi - None of the minis on sale there are something I'd want to order. Last time I ordered from them, I had the same problem as you did.. itty bitty bands that had a heck of a time surviving. Of the 6 I ordered from John's Miniatures, 4 survived. I haven't had any luck with Herbie. I've ordered it twice & bought it locally once and every time it's croaked. Maybe it's the spot I've planted it in? It's got bad soil? It's right smack between some other minis... I need to do some amending to the soil in my mini bed anyways.
Mike - Reason why Midnight Blue looks so closely to Route 66 is their parentage.
Route 66:
seed: [Sweet Chariot (Miniature, Moore, 1984) × Blue Nile ®] × Purple Splendour
pollen: [International Herald Tribune × Rosa soulieana Crépin] × [Sweet Chariot (Miniature, Moore, 1984) × Blue Nile ®]
Midnight Blue:
seed: [Sweet Chariot (Miniature, Moore, 1984) × Blue Nile ®] × Stephens' Big Purple (Hybrid Tea, Stephens, 1985)
pollen: [International Herald Tribune × Hybrid of R. soulieana] × [Sweet Chariot (Miniature, Moore, 1984) × Blue Nile ®]
Only difference is that Route 66 has Purple Splendour & Midnight Blue has Stephens' Big Purple. Plus the pollen is *slightly* different with Rosa Soulieana Crepin versus Hybrid of Rosa Soulieana (Crepin?)
On a different note... I get to go Rose shopping today! yay!!! And I finally got SOME blooms in my yard! True, they're only hyacinths, but at least I have SOMETHING blooming other than vinca! Vinca's retarded.. it blooms year round.